Talk:Luis Castillo (baseball)

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Good article Luis Castillo (baseball) has been listed as one of the Everyday life good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
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[edit] GA Review

After reviewing this, there's a lot of work to be done yet for it to reach GA. The lead is one sentence. That's not gonna cut it, it needs to be much better than that. Check markY The Florida Marlins section needs to not be one giant paragraph. Split it up into a few nice ones. Check markY Surely the Minnesota/New York section can be over a paragraph since he spent two seasons there. Check markY Plus, a lot of his accomplishments should be able to be entwined in the article. Check markY If you can, try and add some non-baseball info in, like his family or otherwise. That I know is difficult though.

In conclusion, I have to fail this for now. It's well on its way though. I can try making this a GA myself if you want, but do what's listed above so that it can at least get to "on hold" status for GA. Wizardman 20:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I'll look it over again. (I'd improve it myself and repost it, but with how bad the backlog is it wouldn't be seen for at least a month) Wizardman 02:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article Assessment

Hi, I have reviewed the article according to the Good Article criteria. For the record my knowledge of baseball is very limited, so you are getting a review from this perspective; although this should be an advantage I hope! I will place the article on hold, I'll do this for at least one week unless all problems are addressed. Following one week however I make no promises. I'll list the issues/problems I have here according to the criteria:

1. It is well written.

  • In the lead you start using MLB without any explanation. Before an abbreviation is used should follow the full word (e.g. Major League Baseball (MLB). Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 11:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Second sentence is poorly written "He currently has been scelected to the MLB All Star Team three times" Apart from spelling, is just bad English. How about "He has been selected for the MLB All Star Team three times" No need for currently in there. Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 11:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm worried that with the statistics in the lead they will need to be updated very regularly. Can this be avoided? Obviously something like the number of All Star teams and awards and things rarely change, but many of those stats do. Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 11:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • How about you mention when he started playing, and who he played with in the lead? This is important info that won't change. Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • "Castillo has batted .294 with 24 home runs" Excuse my ignorance, but what is .294? Can this be wiki-linked or something so people like me can find out? Check markY Already wikilinked- batting average and home runs. STORMTRACKER 94 21:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Should RBI should be written "run batted in (RBI)" in the first instance. Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Please link the following if possible, in their first instance; inning, optioned, AAA, BBWAA, NLCS Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I think I understand, but it's not made explicitly clear, Castillo was signed by a MLB team (Florida Marlins) but initially was loaned out (or whatever) to lower division teams early in his career? I don't completely understand how this works and would be nice if it was made clear in the article. Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Please wiki-link dates such as "July 28", I really hate it because where I'm from people generally write 28 July instead. With the wiki-linking it's formatted to however people like it. Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • "and never came back to the major league level"? and never? Doesn't make sense. How about "and did not" Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

*"remained on the Charlotte Knights" remained with? Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 22:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

  • You wiki-link several terms multiple times in the article; such as, but not exclusively "batting average" and RBI. Please fix this. Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • What's a "short hitting streak"? Check markY Hitting streak is wikilinked. STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • "May 10- May 17" either say "to" or follow WP:DASH, same with "August 1-7" Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • "lead-off hitters"?
  • "10 triples" they are? same with "425th walk" Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • "Rule 5 selection"? Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • It's obviously American dollars (25 million), but you should say that. Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 21:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

  • The publisher of the websites used should be included in the reference. Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 22:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • We be good if you could find some different sources for career information. I have absolutely no doubt there are some out there.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

  • Could more be said about the 2003 World Series? Surely this was a career highlight for him. Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 22:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Says he played in the 1997 World Series in the accomplishments section but this isn't mentioned in the rest of the article? What's going on here? Check markY STORMTRACKER 94 22:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • There is nothing about his personal life. Even one paragraph about family and background would be enough here.

4. It is neutral.

  • Fine here

5. It is stable.

  • No problems here.

6. It is illustrated, where possible and appropriate, by images.

  • Image is acceptable and appropriate.

Thats all I have found. The main problems are things to do with how the article is written, rather then the material in it. As someone without much knowledge of baseball I found the article very difficult to read, with too many abbreviations and jargon unexplained. Avoiding jargon as much as possible helps obviously. The only other thing is there is no info on his family or personal background. This really is necessary to meet the "broad coverage" requirement. Hopefully this can all be sorted in seven days. I'd hate to fail this article because of the large backlog at WP:GAN. Any questions feel free to leave a message on my talk page. - Shudde talk 23:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

You have clearly not done everything I listed. One big thing is there has been absolutely nothing added on his personal life. See my NoN marks above. - Shudde talk 03:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Passed GA. I am not 100% confident this would survive a Reassessment because one sentence on his personal life may not be enough. This section should certainly be expanded. Congratulations on the article. - Shudde talk 20:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)