Talk:Lucinda Roy

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I am not too sure if this woman is making up stuff. So she told the security about his writings? If I had written that stuff, my college teacher would have told me that such writing is a big no without going to security.

Note: above unsigned comment left at 12:41, 18 April 2007 by 85.3.121.252 per page history. --Yksin 22:05, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

The only message I get from her through the distorted media is "See?!?!? I told you so!!! I told you he was crazy!!! See?!?!?!? " Really, I have know idea what her motive is. One thing for sure, she is getting a lot of publicity. But I think if anyone wants to understand what was going on through Cho's mind, they might want to listen to psychologists or other professionals who might have more credible knowledge about human behavior than an English professor just recounting someone writing stories. I just fail to see the correlation. My OPINION, I think its awfully arrogant and reckless of her to go on national television and make assessments about Cho and the situation in the manner she did. I do, however, understand that she may have been very emotional at the moment. And usually when humans are emotional, we tend not to be rational about things or manners. That being said, I do not believe that excuses her behavior.

Note: above unsigned comment left at 15:31, 19 April 2007 by 128.83.228.42 per page history. --Yksin 22:05, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

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This person's entry was made after the shooting. She is not even a victim, nor is she noteworthy enough for a wiki article. A very brief bio on massacre page or victims list is enough. This article is almost purely biographical, and she would not be in the public consciousness if she weren't related to Cho Seung-hui. Fact.69.73.181.85 17:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

The date on which this entry was created is immaterial to whether she is "notable" enough to merit an article in Wikipedia. She meets notability criteria at WP:BIO as the author of two well-received novels & two books of poetry, one of which won received a prize judged by Lucille Clifton, a renowned American poet. Her work has made her the subject of reviews and articles in U.S. newspapers going back at least as far as 1998 (per a check of NewsBank just now). These achievements render her notable independently of her connection to her former student Cho Seung-hui. --Yksin 18:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Yksin. I created this article--not necessarily because I thought she was notable for her recent appearance in the news, but because I was surprised not to find a page on her when I added a wiki to her name in the VA shootings entry. I didn't even add information about her connection to Cho Seung-hui (I also expanded Nikki Giovanni's entry that day because I was appalled at how incomplete her entry was in spite of her long-standing importance in American literature--yet there will be many who haven't heard of her till now). Lucinda Roy is of interest because of her notable books that have contributed to contemporary Black British literature and American literature. She is very much a part of the American literary community whether she has published many novels/poetry collections or not in recent years. My personal hope is to eventually see Wikipedia build up entries on all notable American authors and more international authors as well. Efrafra 22:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

By the way -- the text that appears when you add the prod template includes this language:

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When you first inserted the prod template today, Oakshade reverted it saying, in the edit summary, that a prod had been contested already. This is because another editor (or perhaps the same editor using two different anonymous IPs?) had already prodded it yesterday, & I removed it yesterday because I contested it yesterday, including in the edit summary my reason for doing so. See the history. --Yksin 19:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)