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i changed somethings becuase they were factuially wrong e.g Samosata was in turkey not syria and i changed some other things becuase they were copy and pasted from sites clearly indicating non-negotiable copyright clauses. (Anon. edit from [[User:159.92.101.19)

Samosata was not in "Turkey" in the 2nd century. Similarly, the following is a 20th century concern: His ethnicity is believed to have been Kurdish due to the fact that Commagene the kingdom in which his birthplace was located was a Kurdish state and due to his description of his Suran descent (Soran are one of the main dialectical groupings of the Kurds). Can we have the passage where Lucian speaks of his own ethnicity? it would make a goiod quote to introduce this above text. --Wetman 20:47, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Turkey may not have existed in the 2nd cent AD but nor did the previously used, Syria. on the other point: Lucian, one of the star of classical Greek literature, a Kurd? Born an raised in Samsat, southeast of Adiyaman, Lucian in his writings takes pride in being able to speak and compose in various Greek dialects, so well, he reports, that in Antioch he passed as an Ionian; in Athens as an Antiochian. Lucian is amused that none suspected that Greek was not his native language, and that he was in fact a Soran Kurd. He learned Greek when hired as a boy to do household chores for a local Roman administrator in whose household Greek served as the lingua franca. Like a true Kurd, Lucian often writes of his preference for his mountainous homeland of Kurdistan over the bountiful plains of the others. from http://www.kurdistanica.com/english/history/articles-his/his-articles-06.html as modified by a thesis by Prof. Izady of Harvard university.

I have added the category Syrian people as he did refer to himself as Syrian.Yuber^(talk) 04:19, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I trust that few readers of this page are unaware of Syria as a province of the Roman Empire, as our anonymous contributor above appears to be. Such purely modern contentions over ethnicity generally reveal primitive misunderstandings about history and a desire to apply "spin". --Wetman 00:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

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I like to urge the editors on this article to look in Lucian book "Goddess of Syria", where he stated that he is an "Assourious", that translate to Assyrian not Syrian. I propose that I change "Syrian" to the proper "Assyrian" by 10/25/06 if no one else has any objections. --Esarhaddon 01:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I found this right here in his own testimony; [[1]] I write as an Assyrian born Chaldean 04:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

On what grounds can Lucian possibly be considered "one of the first novelists in occidental civilization"? This seems to be an extremely loose conception of the novel. TickleText 22:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Way to Write History

I notice that this article has nothing on Lucian's important work, The Way to Write History. I'm not very good at writing encyclopaedic articles so if someone else could add a description and brief analysis/evaluation of the work and its significance in understanding ancient historiography, I would appreciate it. Mr. Alcibiades 17:53, 21 April 2007 (UTC)