Talk:Luís de Camões
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Shouldn't this page be renamed? Either we use the native form (Luís de Camões) or the english transliteration (Luis de Camoes). Zubras 01:14, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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"considered by some" should be banned. Didn't Camoes' example set the standard for literary Portuguese? That's worth saying if true. Wetman 12:12, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
There should be more factual information in here, instead of general statements as that he fell in love with a lady of the court and was exiled on that account. Also, I beleive it is now undisputed that he has never been in Macau
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[edit] POV
I think the article has anti-Portuguese bias, he died in poverty because of the life that he had, he wasted all the money he recived from the king in CRAP and women. This article needs a review and investigation. -Pedro 21:13, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Correction
Camões's accurate birth date is unknown. Usually it is referred as 1524?
[edit] Revision
Which genius did the last revision? I was inclined to use foul language here. This article needs expansion, not cuts. A note on the political correcteness of the cuts in the Lyric Poetry section: Camões is as definitive and current to the language as Shakespeare is to English. There is absolutely no need in being afraid to speak of his primacy; it's actually informative to do so. There is obviously a not very well-informed outsider hand at work here, there are works in Spanish listed, but not one in Portuguese.
[edit] Cites please. Avoid (appearance of) personal opinion or original research.
In the section "Lyric Poetry" this paragraph appears to contain personal opinions or original research.
His ten (or more, depending on the source—the authority on the matter, however, has been Jorge de Sena) Canções (Songs) are a very impressive psychological and emotional dissection through poetic rhetoric, the complete dramatization of the inner self and one's own consciousness—qualities most often thought of as pertaining originarily to Shakespeare (Bloom) or Donne (Eliot)—making Camões a kind of precursor of that line of poetry which would culminate in William Wordsworth, even more so than, say, Petrarch or Auzias March. There are still many others of his lyric works that could be brought to the table; Camões was, despite later Parnassian attacks, extremely well-versed in the language and skilled with an impressive array of poetic forms.
These statements need good cites. Wikipedia:Attribution. -- Writtenonsand 12:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] About his birth
my teacher told me, that using files from his university, people calculated that his birth was around 1524/1525
this if he never was held back in school
[edit] Camoes borned in Alenquer???
Frequently is refered that Camoes was borned in Alequer. This is based in a Poem that was written by him: http://www.sonetos.com.br/sonetos.php?n=415 But, by reading carefully this poem, we see that indeed this poem was written by Camoes but in a way that it is not him who is saying, but someone that died with less than 25 years old. So the poem is being miss understood. This problem is being presented by Prof. Jose Hermano Saraiva in his program "A Alma e a Gente" RTPI http://www.rtp.pt/rtpi/images/site/emissao/ Joao Coutinho 1Mar2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.178.143.160 (talk) 22:14, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
