Talk:Louis Comfort Tiffany

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[edit] Bing Request

can someone add coverage of Tiffany's relationship with Bing? It seems pretty important to his introduction.

ref: http://19thc-artworldwide.org/summer_05/articles/eide.html
ref: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0PAL/is_516_161/ai_n13628908
Jeffme 05:20, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Family

l.c. tiffany was my grandfather i miss him! im 94 years old! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.160.145.90 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Corporate Successors

Does anyone know the difference between Tiffany & Co. and the Louis C. Tiffany Studios. I think some mention should be made of the studios in the article. --evrik 14:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Tiffany & Company was founded by the father of Louis Comfort Tiffany, and continues operation in the famous Fifth Avenue (New York City) store, commonly known as Tiffany's, as in "Breakfast at Tiffany's". Protzy 23:55, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Louis Comfort Tiffany, II

I don't think that Louis Comfort Tiffany, II, son of Louis Comfort Tiffany existed. The child, twin of Julia De Forest Tiffany, b. Sep 24, 1877 was Louise Comfort Tiffany, a daughter. Here is more information -

1421w.xxxxx.x5. (daughter) Louise Comfort TIFFANY, b. Sep 24, 1887, NYC, NY; d. 1974; m. 1911, Rodman Drake DeKay Gilder (b. 1877; d. 1953), son of Richard Watson Gilder and Helena De Kay. Author. Scribner’s Monthly. 1881, Editor, Century Illustrated Monthly

1421w.xxxxx.x5x. (g-son) Richard Watson GILDER, b. m. Anne Spring Denny Alsop.

1421w.xxxxx.x5xx. (gg-son)George Franklin GILDER, b. 1939. Supply side Economist. Author. “Wealth and Poverty”. NOTABLE*. The Gilder Technology Report.

1421w.xxxxx.x5y. (g-dau)Helena DeKay GILDER, b. 1814 (c); d. Apr 6, 2001, age 87, at her home, Mitchell, MD, memorial service, Jun 22, 2001, Tyringham Union Church, Tyringham, MA; m. Alfred Amasa Miller, Jr. She became an MD. Lived Upper Montclair, NJ and Tyringham, MA.

(gg-s)son MILLER, III, m. _____ Augusto.

(gg-s) Rodman Gilder MILLER. Glass Artist. Seattle. Owner of Rodman Gilder Miller Glass Studio and Neon by Neuron, since 1989.

2929 Mayfair Avenue North • Seattle WA 98109 • (206) 283-3164 • rodman@rodmanstudio.com Protzy 00:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Inaccuracies

"Tiffany used opalescent glass in a variety of colors and textures to create a unique style of stained glass. This can be contrasted with the method of painting in glass paint or enamels on colorless glass that had been the dominant method of creating stained glass for several hundred years in Europe. Use of the colored glass itself to create stained glass pictures was motivated by the ideals of the Arts and Crafts movement and its leader William Morris in England."

I don't know where this misinformation came from, but it needs correcting!

  • Yes, painting on glass was common in the 17th and 18th centuries. But this article ignores the fact that there had been a revival in the art of stained glass manufacture in England, France, Germany and the Netherlands, prompted by Gothic Revival movement, which began sometime in the late 1700s. By 1850 There were literally dozens of stained glass designers and manufacturers in England alone.
  • William Morris did not revive the making of stained glass, and he was certainly not the first to start hand-crafted glass manufacture. Neither was Tiffany, regardless of the implication of the paragraph above. One of the earliest makers of "Medieval" type hand-made glass for window production was James Powell of Whitefriars, at 15 years before Tiffany came on the scene and more than twenty years before Tiffany started manufacture.
  • The stained glass manufactures of England, Wailes, Hardman, Clayton and Bell, Lavers Barraud and Westlake, and several others had great expertise in utilising coloured glass for effect. And were doing so in the 1840s, 1850s and 1860s. The did paint the features on the faces, and they did paint folds in robes, annd the certainly painted medieval-style borders, canopies etc. But the did not paint colour onto glass, except "silver stain" which is very effective at giving a bright yellow colour and hhad been so used ever since the 13th century.
  • And if you look at Tiffany's figurative works, of course you will see that he also painted the details of the faces.
  • Tiffany was inded an innovator. But what Tiffany achieved needs to be put in context.

By the time Tiffany comenced work, he had seen Hardman. He had seen Clayton and Bell. The tradition that Tiffany broke away from was not "painting in glass paint or enamels on colorless glass that had been the dominant method of creating stained glass for several hundred years in Europe" as it says in this article.

The tradition from which Tiffany departed was the Gothic Revival movement, spurred on in England by the presence of about 60 mighty Medieval Cathedrals and Abbeys, and countless medieval churches, every single one of which required restoration. The US lacked this tradition. They did not need 100 stained glass firms each capable of reproducing medieval windows. Tiffany could take whatever direction he chose, with very little constraint.

See also:

--Amandajm 10:00, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] White House renovation

Something needs to be said about Tiffany's renovation of the White House in 1882. He put Tiffany glass in the windows and generally plastered Gilded Age ornamentation all over the mansion. It was all removed by Charles McKim's Georgian restoration for TR in 1902. If nothing else, this will serve as a reminder to add it myself when I have a chance. --Tysto 14:03, 28 August 2007 (UTC)