User talk:Lordrosemount

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[edit] A welcome from Sango123

Hello, Lordrosemount, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions; I hope you like the place and decide to stay. We're glad to have you in our community! Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Happy editing!

-- Sango123 (talk) 20:08, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything or simply wish to say hello. :)

[edit] Iranian peoples

Hi, I'm wondering how you can write that the article is "extremely well written" after reading my comments in the FAC room. Tony 01:31, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Duplicate images uploaded

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[edit] University of St Andrews Student Association AfD close

Thank you for your kind comments despite your disagreement with my decision. Yes, I was certainly aware, from reading the article, that the SA is not quite like similar organizations at American universities (although there is a similarity of function in that, while most students aren't members of such all-encompassing organizations, they usually do pay a "student activity fee" (or something like that) as a line item in their tuitition bills, which the school then gives to the primary student-government organization to disburse as it sees fit to various student organizations with more specialized functions. But I would say that the automatic membership conferred on all students, in addition to its legal mandate, argues against notability since neither the organization's existence nor membership are voluntary matters. It would sort of be like having articles on company unions (which, of course, we don't because they're illegal, in the US and probably the UK too, I'm sure).

The conference on heraldry is notable to the school and to heraldry, but it's a real stretch to me to say that the SA's heraldry is notable because the university hosted a conference on it. And the level of detail about the internal governance is a level of detail that's ... well, a couple of weeks ago I was exchanging email with some radio station promo director who had insisted that her stations' scheduling information (which DJ was on when) was notable. It's trivial. Keep summary style in mind. We've trimmed down overlong plot summaries not just for the copyright issues but because it's greater detail than the articles usually need.

As you admit, your arguments for keeping the article as is are largely based on your reaction to what I agree was not the best-faith AfD. Had the notability issues apart from the nomination not been raised by Mister Manticore, it might well have been speedy closed and kept. That's an unfortunate risk of AfDs. If the nominator persists in similar behavior in the future it might be worth it to consider an RfC.

I do not think that WP:IAR can be applied here as the greater good of Wikipedia is not at issue. See WP:WIARM: "It is not a trump card". I chose the merge and possible rename as the option that would best satisfy what editors in the discussion were coming to consensus on. A strict reading of policy would have called for a delete, but this debate would have been ill-served by such an absolutist interpretation when most editors agreed, even tacitly, that some of the information in the article was notable in some way, although it may not have warranted a separate article.

The next step, if you still would like to have this decision reconsidered, is deletion review. Perhaps someone might agree that the nom would have called for a speedy close, but since other issues were raised that may well be a moot point. But if you wish, go ahead. Daniel Case 13:55, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Again, thank you very much for your civil response ... I love the collegiality that ensues around here when we remember our obligations to our fellow editors.

The best thing I can tell you right now is perhaps bring the matter up at either Wikipedia:WikiProject Organizations or Wikipedia talk:Notability (organizations and companies). Basically, your question would be, are campuswide organizations at some institutions of higher learning inherently notable? I think you might want input from editors with experience at British or Commonwealth universities which have similar student-organization structures (i.e., some sort of legislative mandate and automatic membership for all enrolled students). Because, as you suggest, the same question is bound to come up with a whole host of other articles.

BTW, just curious, is the "Lord" simply in your username or is there an actual title involved? Daniel Case 14:47, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dawsonowned.gif

Hello, I noticed you participated in the recent deletion discussion for the Owned article and an image in that article is currently up for deletion. Your input would be appreciated. --Pixelface 04:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Caitiline Article

yah, I've noticed... that's good... So it should be resolved sooner or later... Protection would be beneficial. Sure. anything to stop this senseless NPOV vandalism. --Patar knight 22:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)