Talk:Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol

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[edit] Proposed Merger

There is no question that there are too many uncoordinated articles relating to reconnaissance. The reconnaissance article perhaps should change to a disambiguation page, with separate pages for network reconnaissance, military reconnaissance, etc.

I've done a page on special reconnaissance (SR) that deals with the units that go deepest behind enemy lines, under the control of theater or national commanders. The US Army has changed their term "Long Range Reconnaissance", which certainly was the Vietnam-era historical term, to "Long Range Surveillance" (LRS).

LRS units still operate well behind enemy lines, but not as far as SR. LRS, before some of the new reorganizations, still operated under fairly high command levelsd. LRS detachments were assigned to divisions and LRS companies to corps.

Staying with the older definitions, battalions and brigades would have platoon-sized, permanently-attached reconnaissance units, in platoon strength at battalion.

Not to be forgotten, just with American forces, are the Marines. Force Recon companies are a strategic asset reporting to Fleet Marine Force or at least a corps/MEF level. Reconnaissance Battalions are part of divisions. Just to confuse things, there is usually a Force Recon (and possibly SEAL) detachment with the smallest independent commands, the Marine Expeditionary Unit--call them a heavily reinforced battalion or lightweight brigade.

I really have to study the RSTA Squadrons in the new Army Brigade Combat Teams, which appear to assign two scout companies per brigade, with more available as attachments.

It's good for you to suggest this; there's a good deal of cleanup needed. Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 22:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

LRRP should just cover the US Army organizations (LRRP, Rangers & LRS units) and US Army methods evolved from Vietnam to the present day. The term was not used by other NATO armies and is rather army specific. 24.63.151.83 (talk) 12:16, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I guess from the above that you never went to the NATO ILRRPS.Blackshod (talk) 13:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not to be merged

The World War II Long Range Penetration units were different to reconissance; they were designed for offensive operations, and in particular the Chindits were large self contained units supported by air. The LRRP patrols were small groups designed purely for recce workFoofbun (talk) 09:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)