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[edit] Alice In Wonderland
how is it possible to translate Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland into a language which has an aim to eliminate ambiguity in lexis and grammar?
[edit] Pronouncing the comma
I've got the following from the on-line Reference Grammar, Chapter 3, Section 3, eighth paragraph:
- "It is always legal to use the apostrophe (IPA [h]) sound in pronouncing a comma."
-- Dissident (Talk) 18:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- I discussed it with the author of that book, and he says it should probably be considered an erratum. I'll keep this talk page apprised on any further developments.—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 00:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Isn't the comma rather pronounced as a glide (between vowels)?? As I had learned it, the apostrophe (comma above right) can be pronounced as IPA [h] but any kind of "unvoiced fricative" is allowed also. I for one never could imagine why a glottal stop or such couldn't do the job as well. (It is said to be paramount to not complicate things for people unable to articulate the H-sound, e.g. for Italians). Yet, I'll have a look into my The Complete Lojban Language. Wayasu (talk) 19:54, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- "Apostrophe" and "comma" refer to very different things in this context. Apostrophe (') and comma (,). Apostrophe can be pronounced as any unvoiced fricative that isn't already the sound of some other letter—you wouldn't want it to be the same sound as "f" or "s", for example. The glottal stop is one of the valid pronunciations for "." and, therefore, it is not correct to use the same sound for the apostrophe.—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 21:57, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Sapir-Whorf
The description said that Lojban was designed to test the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis - such a description can be contradicted by reading given information on this very Wikipedia article. Lojban, from what I understand, was designed to be a usable Loglan, which would make its purpose very different. It does not seem to have one specific goal in mind, but various - an international auxiliary language being a more optimistic goal.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.90.164.4 (talk • contribs) 10:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC1)
[edit] Brivla
"All brivla, except for a handful of borrowings such as alga, have at least five letters."
The five letter rule is about the subcategory of gismu, alga is clearly a fu'ivla.
Codegrinder 21:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Additional logo
I suggest that the logo proposed by Eppcott and cizra [1] (the one on which the favicon of Lojban.org is based) is introduced in addition to the main logo on the top of the article. I think it's one of the common and best graphic representations of Lojban. --Mednak 16:43, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- I don't propose it, I like the original more. I just recreated the image using nicer SVG. --Cizra
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- Would you upload it? --Mednak 11:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Oh my!!
It is uggly! Said: Rursus ☺ ★ 14:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- What do you mean? --Mednak 11:45, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Firefox add-on
- A dedicated Lojban popup dictionary as a Firefox add-on has been suggested, but is still in the level of speculation as the present lexing and parsing system of Lojban does not cover JavaScript.
I'm not familiar with Lojban, but this sentence seems very odd. It seems to be saying that the reason a specialised Lojban dictionary add-on cannot be made is because there are no JavaScript-based parsing tools for Lojban. Actually that's a guess; taking it at face value it seems to be saying the opposite - that Lojban can't parse JavaScript.
On top of that confusion, I've never heard of a dictionary that does anything more complicated than conjugate or decline words into their possible lemmas, so why would a lack of parsing libraries stop development of a dictionary?--holizz 17:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Archives
The archives of the conversations are now accesible in two versions: one for the original, unedited format, and another for an organized collection enabling easier topical reference. The latter will be updated as a new discussion on this page is concluded or becomes inactive. --Mednak 11:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Internet Section addition
Webcomic "xkcd" did a strip on Lojban - http://xkcd.com/191/ The title tag of the image (viewable by hovering the mouse over it) reveals the phrase "zo'o ta jitfa .i .e'o xu do pendo mi". I have not the slightest idea what this means. 58.7.212.229 12:40, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
[humor] that-there is-false [.] [request] [is-it-true?] you befriend me
In natural English, "Just kidding; I don't mean it. Please don't hate me?" 218.111.47.55 02:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Series of Lojban articles?
Given that there's a series of articles for Esperanto, including Esperanto as an international language, Esperanto vocabulary, and Esperanto and Ido compared, should similar articles be made for Lojban? 69.80.147.216 16:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Adding entry for Commons:Babel
Has anyone considered adding an entry for Commons:Babel? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erth64net (talk • contribs) 21:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
