Talk:Locomotives of the Great Western Railway
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Talk page for Locomotives of the Great Western Railway! Please talk! Dunc|☺ 18:31, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] identify this engine: 9700 Class ?
Am I right? Is this a 9700 class [1]? Dunc|☺ 18:33, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- I thought 97xx locos were part of the GWR 5700 Class, but may be wrong. Our Phellap 19:09, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, well according to http://www.eclipsehistory.org.uk/steam8.htm#Steam basically "GWR 7700 Class engine with ide tanks fitted", and 7700 are 5700s. Also http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/m_in_060_5700.htm "One small separate series within the class were numbers 9700 to 9710 as these were locomotives fitted with condensing gear for working the meat traffic over London's Metropolitan line to Smithfield market. A prototype was built in 1932 from engine number 8700 with pannier tanks of reduced length so that the recirculating Weir pump and associated pipework could be installed. After a year on trial, the only modification needed for the production of the small class was an increase in the water capacity. The shape of the tanks was altered to join with the running plate at the rear increasing capacity to 1250 gallons. The prototype was modified to this design and renumbered 9700. A replacement for 8700 was built in 1934 by GWR Swindon" so, I guess so, it's just I've never seen one before. Dunc|☺ 19:16, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Ok makes sense. Might be worth putting all 77xx and 97xx under the 5700 Class for now to save having lots of short articles. They are basically all the same thing - just like the different sub-classes for modern day diesel/electric locos. Our Phellap 22:06, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, well according to http://www.eclipsehistory.org.uk/steam8.htm#Steam basically "GWR 7700 Class engine with ide tanks fitted", and 7700 are 5700s. Also http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/m_in_060_5700.htm "One small separate series within the class were numbers 9700 to 9710 as these were locomotives fitted with condensing gear for working the meat traffic over London's Metropolitan line to Smithfield market. A prototype was built in 1932 from engine number 8700 with pannier tanks of reduced length so that the recirculating Weir pump and associated pipework could be installed. After a year on trial, the only modification needed for the production of the small class was an increase in the water capacity. The shape of the tanks was altered to join with the running plate at the rear increasing capacity to 1250 gallons. The prototype was modified to this design and renumbered 9700. A replacement for 8700 was built in 1934 by GWR Swindon" so, I guess so, it's just I've never seen one before. Dunc|☺ 19:16, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] 517 Class
My ABC of GWR Locomotives (1945? edition) shows three locos in this class: 3574/3575/3577; notes show them to have been built at Wolverhampton 1895-7 Peter Shearan 16:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Constituent companies' locos
As I have put at the head of the list, my ABC is dated c1945, and many of the earlier locos are obviously not included here. Where there are some longer lists (eg TVR) there are gaps in the numbering system where locos had been scrapped, presumably. Peter Shearan 18:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] What's this, then?
From The Story of the Cambrian, by C. P. Gasquoine, 1922, Project Gutenberg eText 20074. Extra marks for identifying theother locos in that publication. --Tagishsimon (talk)