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[edit] Committee area as article subject
I note the article is defined currently as being primarily about a Highland Council committee area, which seems to be a somewhat emphemeral concept, unlikely to survive long in its current form. I understand these committee areas have no legislative definition and are purely Highland Council inventions, defined in terms of lists of wards. The council can not control the development of ward boundaries and the relevant Boundaries Commision is not constrained to respect committee area boundaries. Boundaries are expected to change dramatically in 2007 (to create new multi-member wards). Therefore committee areas are likely to have then quite different shapes, and perhaps also different names. Seems to me it would be better to focus on the historic district. Laurel Bush 11:09, 17 January 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Pre Highland-region Lochaber
Am I right in thinking the district created in 1975 was composed of an area of Argyll and an area of Inverness-shire? Laurel Bush 13:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC).
- Originally the border between Argyll and Inverness-shire ran through Kinlochleven which meant that Kinlochleven had two police stations. The border moved to Rannoch Moor when Highland Region was formed.
- Historically Ardnamurchan and Morvern were part of Argyll but I am not sure when that border moved. --jmb 11:13, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I am seeing no mention of Argyll in the article. I am seeing a mysterious reference to some historic (pre-county) system of districts, and no link to article about this system. Laurel Bush 09:56, 15 June 2006 (UTC).
From Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973:
| District | Composed of |
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| Lochaber |
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Laurel Bush 09:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC).
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- I would say the page on the Local Goverment Act is poorly written though might well be copied from an official document. It defines the "District" of Lochaber (meaning presumably the old Lochaber District Council and modern Lochaber Council area) as including the "district" of Lochaber (presumably meaning the historic area of Lochaber). This seems very ambiguous to me. The old District Council area and present Lochaber Council area include Mallaig and other areas which were not part of the historic area of Lochaber. The map labelled "Map of Scotland showing the historic district of Lochaber" is incorrect, it actually shows the area of the modern Lochaber Council. --jmb 16:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
No. The 'included' Lochaber will be a district of the county of Inverness defined under earlier local government legislation (and may well have had its own district council for some purposes). Also, there is a much earlier sense of a Lochaber district going back centuries, much earlier than the creation of county councils under 1889 legislation, and probably earlier than the creation of recognisable counties, but whether the map gives a reliable definition of boundaries is another issue, which I am not equipped to address. Laurel Bush 10:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC).
- District Councils came in at the same time as Regional Councils which broke up the old counties. I have never heard of a Lochaber District Council before that time but I have only lived there 30+ years. There was Fort William (Town? Burgh?) Council and Inverness-shire County Council (which I think was responsible for the area outside the town). When I see a reference to historic Lochaber I presume it means the old areas like Lochaber, Morvern, Moidart which I don't think had defined boundaries as they just referred to an area. The only fixed subdivisions would be parishs but they could overlap county boundaries. --jmb 11:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hydro scheme - separate article?
Any objection to moving the info on the hydro scheme to a separate article, eg Lochaber hydro-electric scheme. It looks a bit out of place here, seeing as the rest of the article is about the area / district. Also it would be more consistent with other schemes eg Galloway hydro-electric power scheme. It could be linked to from this article in a "See also" section. --Vclaw 21:55, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Seems reasonable to me. You might like to add that there are stories that the original plan was to extend the hydro scheme at Kinlochleven but the local MP(?) objected to Inverness-shire water providing jobs in Argyll or something like that. I can't find an absolute reference for the quote but seen it mentioned in various places. --jmb 22:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- I wrote much of the original hydro-scheme article (and the one about the Kinlochleven scheme). At the time, there were few articles about any aspect of Lochaber - now that the article has grown, it makes sense to create it as a separate piece, I think. Paul W 12:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I have just forced a table of contents, to make the hydro scheme section more evident. Not sure the existing length of the article is such that it really needs splitting. Laurel Bush 15:26, 3 August 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Lochaber hydroelectric scheme
The water catchment area is extended by an aqueduct running alongside the side of the A86 through Strath Mashie, it runs at least as far as the River Mashie at NN 587 910 but sure if it goes any further. --jmb 14:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] North Lorne
¿Alguien puede escribir un articulo sobre North Lorne? Someone can do write an article over North Lorne, please? Anselmocisneros 07:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
