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Contents 1 Naming conventions 2 Depth 3 Volume 4 Why do we call it "loch" 5 Usually Dating? 6 Question

[edit] Naming conventions

Should this page be called 'Loch_ness' to conform to wikipedia's way of only capitalising the first letter of a page? Alternatively Loch_ness could redirect to this. 80.229.14.246 5 July 2005 21:43 (UTC)

The convention doesn't apply to proper nouns. I've put up the re-direct from Loch_ness just for you though. Grinner July 6, 2005 09:53 (UTC)

[edit] Depth

Is it 228 or 248 m deep? Ufwuct 21:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

There are many conflicting accounts on the Internet, mostly from touristy rather than technical-looking sites. The most august publication I could find is the Bathymetrical Survey of the Fresh-Water Lochs of Scotland, 1897-1909, which quotes a maximum depth of 754 ft. Other reports mention underwater caves reaching deeper, and it may be that the Victorian survey overlooked the deepest part, but until a better reference is provided, I think 754 ft (230 m) is the best we can do. --Stemonitis 09:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

There's a number of sites reporting a sonar reading of 256m (812 ft), from late last century. Lavateraguy 00:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Volume

I always thought the Loch Ness was the largest body of water by volume in Great Britain, but Loch Lomond is the largest by surface area. Is this correct? If so, should we clarify for quiz teams? Dbfirs 22:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Just to further clarify (and I also believe Loch Ness to be larger in this respect) that it is the largest by volume of fresh water lochs/lakes, ie those inland - not sea lochs. Hope that's not too pedantic.Greynolds999 16:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Is Loch Ness the largest by volume in the UK? I've looked on here and the Lough Neagh article and it isn't clarified. Maybe it could be added if someone knows the answer. 212.140.167.99 00:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why do we call it "loch"

Can't we just say "Loch Ness (Scottish Gaelic: Loch Nis) is a large, deep freshwater lake in the Scottish Highlands?" Does calling the lake "loch" make the article more mysterious? :)

--Zealander 22:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Loch is the word for lake in Scottish English as well as Scots and Scottish Gaelic. It seems to me that it's customary to refer to lakes in Scotland as lochs within British English generally. Similarly lake in Ireland are referred to as loughs, and perhaps those of the northwest midlands (Shropshire and Cheshire) as meres. Lavateraguy 23:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. But still, this is English encyclopedia, not Scottish. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to use English word "lake" instead of Scottish "loch?" --Zealander 06:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia explicitly does not adopt any national variant of English. Editors are allowed to use there own national standard. (I suspect that the motiviation was to avoid edit and flame wars over English versus American spelling.) Lavateraguy 08:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Point taken. --Zealander 00:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

It's some political correctness. Like when TV reporters use those exaggerated rolling r's with Mexican names or terms even though the discussion is in English. It's basically form of kissing up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.32.84 (talk) 16:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Usually Dating?

It is a crannog, an artificial island usually dating to the Iron Age.

What, it has the ability to vary its own dating? ...and thus only "usually" dates to the Iron Age? rowley (talk) 22:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Not necessarily the best of phrasing, but I presume the intent is that most crannogs date to the Iron Age (and perhaps also that the date of the one on Loch Ness is unknown). Lavateraguy (talk) 22:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Is'nt it the most famous loch? IloveTrains (talk) 05:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC)