Talk:Loblolly Pine

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Removed "Loblolly is the primary tree of the New Jersey Pine Barrens": The NJ Pine Barrens are of Pitch Pine (P. rigida) and Scrub Pine (P. virginiana) - MPF 10:50, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Mike, are they not flowers (in a botanical sense)? I don't care what you call them in the article, but I sure would consider them flowers. Why not? Pollinator 13:39, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

BTW, loblolly pine pollen seasonally coats everything for a few days in the spring in South Carolina. It is also the peak of the spring allergy season. While pine makes the bulk of the pollen, oaks and pecans are blamed for the allergic reaction. I don't known why, but perhaps this info might be useful in the article. Pollinator 13:39, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Metric

This page, like many other American species pages existed solely in Metric for a long time. I added units with which Americans are familiar. MPF rearranged these to make the Metric have precedence. While Metric measurement is clearly superior, and probably will be adapted some day by the U.S., it is currently strange to the lay people who will use this work as a reference. If I were to start reworking pages of European species with units unfamiliar to the lay people, it would be regarded as discourteous. Please consider this and apply the Golden Rule. Pollinator July 3, 2005 13:15 (UTC)

I disagree. It is a science topic, and as in any science topic, scientific measurements should come first. I also would point out that the Flora of North America (probably the best and most detailed American source of information on American plants) does not consider US units to be necessary at all. Finally, the formatting used for the US measures was not at all clear, and in some cases completely wrong (a mm is not a cm!) - MPF 3 July 2005 13:22 (UTC)
My $.02 is that the customary system measurements are useful. While this may be a science article first and foremost, I think that research and coverage of flora, especially trees, often transcends pure science. Maybe I'm just a sentimental tree hugger... but I can think of several generally scientific tree guides that occasionally lapse into non-scientific superlatives like "magnificent" on occasion. Not that I advocate going that far, but I do advocate adding measurements that help lay readers better understand the measurements of trees in their area. That would mean including customary system measurements for American trees. --67.100.137.40 23:15, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Question

"The name loblolly means a low wet place, but these trees are not limited to that specific habitat. " I removed this, since reearch indicate otherwise. If anyone has a source, please replace it, and quote the source, of course! Rich Farmbrough 00:02, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

It agrees with what I've read in several tree books; I'll dig a ref out tomorrow - MPF 02:36, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
The Arbor Day website agrees the same definition - MPF 11:59, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
IIRC, "loblolly" originally was a name for some kind of murky drink or gruel. Mudholes then came to be called by the term. Finally, it was applied to the pines seen at such mudholes in the South.--67.101.67.177 00:28, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] taxobox image

Is it just me, or is the choice to use a field of busted trees possibly not the best choice? I live in the frozen north, so I can't go out and take a pic of a loblolly pine to replace it with... Tomertalk 22:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vandals

You need to regen your references, somebody vandalized them