Talk:LNER Class A4 4488 Union of South Africa
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I'm not sure how best to include it, but mention needs to be made of this engine's name history- after all, it spent a considerable number of years during appartheid renamed as "Osprey" as a political protest. The problem is of course how to handle this in a neutral manner.
[edit] Osprey during appartheid
Do you have any source for that information? It's interesting and worth putting into the article. I'm not sure I see the problem about a point of view, provided we stick to stating facts. -- Strib 02:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- From my understanding the renaming was actually as a result of anti-apartheid activists threatening to hold protests at her (are steam locomotives her?) public appearances. Does anyone have access to back issues of railway magazines from the 1980's and 1990's to confirm this? --Aclapton 16:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Yes, steam locos are referred to (certainly in British English) as 'her', even the King Class, for example. So King George V was female!
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- OK, I asked my parents for more details (something that could be cited) and they spoke to her owner, John Cameron. Apparently she was named Osprey for the duration of the 1986 Commonwealth Games, hosted in Edinburgh that year, since she was running excursions on the (East Coast?) main line by then and her presence would have caused embarrassment. Now, how to put it into the article... -- Strib 02:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] So where is it now?
The locomotive has been removed from the Severn Valley Railway article, so does that mean an update is required to this one, if indeed it is no longer based at the SVR? Loganberry (Talk) 23:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
