Talk:Liz Phair

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Contents 1 Albini 2 POV 3 Phair fotos 4 Bisexual 5 Record sales 6 Phair should not redirect here; needs disambig 7 Untitled 2007 Album 8 CD "reviews" 9 move to California

[edit] Albini

The part about Steve Albini is unclear. Did he criticize Phair, or was he defending her? That bit could be rewritten by someone familiar with the controversy. 38.115.19.227 15:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

That was a criticism, I'm pretty sure. Rejecting mainstream attention and/or tactics (and staying within that more insular underground world) was a very dearly-held alternative/underground ethic at the time - and artists who went from underground to mainstream in the early 90s almost always got a lot flack for it (i.e. the "selling out" accusation). So, I don't think he was defending her. Now, I think they've patched things up somehow and are on good terms. I read a recent Rolling Stone article (within the last few weeks) that touches on this: Albini is apparently on the DVD documentary that's coming out (along with her reissue of _Guyville_). Sinderbloog (talk) 01:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POV

While I'm glad to find someone else besides myself and my ex who like Liz Phair it was a critical flop, not smash. The article even attributes negative reviews and criticism to positive ones (?!). Hyacinth 05:37, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

It can probably be safely regarded as a smash considering the media play of Why Can't I. ~ Joseph S Atkinson 03:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Phair fotos

any sites with good updated fotos of phair?

Figured I'd add an album cover while we wait for something better. I thought whitechocolatespaceegg had the best picture of her, so I picked that one. Everyking 22:28, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bisexual

I removed the bit about her bisexuality, since just hinting at it doesn't seem like just cause to include it in an encyclopedia article. I did put the article it is from in the references, however.--Weebot 06:54, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Record sales

The article had a bit re: Whip Smart that it hadn't sold as well as "Guyville". (I reworded the sentence a bit, but someone else wrote it.) However, as I was looking for source info today for my edits, I saw on at least 2 webpages that "Whip-Smart" was actually the best selling LP in Matador Records' history. Which, ergo, means it had to sell more than "Guyville". Does anyone have access to find out what the cumulative sales of "Guyville" and "Whip-smart" have been? NickBurns 20:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Phair should not redirect here; needs disambig

See Caspar Phair and there'll be an article on his son A.W.A. Phair which I haven't gotten to yet.Skookum1 18:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Be bold. There are three or four more people with the last name, according to Google search. --Dhartung | Talk 21:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

The reason I haven't done it is I'm already up to my eyeballs in wikigators and also will be leaving wikipedia within the week or so (long story); so I'm only plopping need-to comments on pages like this: I just don't have the time.Skookum1 22:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Untitled 2007 Album

Does anyone know where I can get more information about the supposed album expected for 2007? I saw something listed in her discography section. There's no seperate article on the subject and her official website hasn't been updated since January of 2006.24.235.22.30 02:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, now it's just kind of gone. Anybody help me? Please? 24.235.22.30 05:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CD "reviews"

Several of her albums have reviews that give false ratings, they use the rating from members of the Rolling Stone magazine website ... but user reviews are NOT notable and not considered professional reviews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by QuirkyAndSuch (talk • contribs) 01:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] move to California

Might be relevant to mention that she moved to Southern California (Hollywood area, I think) a few years ago (sometime after 2003). Not that moves like this are relevant for every artist, necessarily; but since she has always been very closely linked to the Chicago area and its music scene, might be useful to note that in the personal life section or in the appropriate album section that corresponds to the time when she moved (which would be in the years prior to the Guyville reissue). I'll look for a source - I know I read about it in interviews, but not sure if she gave reasons why...Sinderbloog (talk) 22:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)