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[edit] Number
Text says 176 and infobox 177 Livonians live. And is there newer census than from 2000? Kuhlfürst (talk) 16:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
There a two different things, I think: 1) Livs, the finno-ugric people described in the article; 2) Livonians, the whole people of the medieval Livonia (inkl. Germans, Latvians, Livs, Estonians etc.).
[edit] Livonians
(The editor who edit Livonian People please add: Livonians ( own ancient language name Randalists in the west or Kalamieds (Fishermans) in the east. Later Liivlists or Liivods.
Original Livonians were and are those Finno Ugric people who speaks Livonian language. Latgalles, Seelids and Semgalis, three Latvian speaking tribes, which become later united Latvians, and Baltic Germans in addition to Estonians living in Adminstrative Livonian Province, were not Livonians. There were about 70.000 Livonians in 1201 when Riga was founded. The war against the German Knights was a bloody one and when it finnished in 1206 the Livonians under their last tribal chief Kaupo become vassals of Livonian Brothers of the Sword and later in 1237 vassals to Teutonic Order. Since then their number decreased and in 1868 there were 1.600 Livonians left speaking Livonian language living in 12 villages along the Northern Coast of Courland. Three largest villages were: Iira, Ire (Irai) and Kuolka.
Other villages were: Luuz, Piza, Uudkula, Siigrog, Pitrog, Vaida, Säänog, Mellesille (Musta numm). There were two Livonian Lutherian Churches in Piza and Roja.
A small population of Livonians still live in Estonia around Ikla just inside Estonian border, few kilometres north of Heinäste (Ainazi), their main population center in Northern Livonia on the coast of Gulf of Liivi (Riga).
The Livonian inhabited villages north of River Väinä were: Koikyl, Erkyl, Lemsalo, Ulpish, Sarum, Ajas, Ierkul, Vellan, Kempe, Launekul, Sermus, Arras, Sujen, Nurmas, Allas.
West of River Väinä along the coast of Gulf of Liivi (Riga): Varkyl, Kaupe, Varkal, Tukkumi, Kile, Seppe, Laure, Ilman, Viesroje, Vesemuise, Kalve, Tule, Sakke, in addition of those 12 mentioned earlier.
Some more Livonian settlements are mentioned by Henricus the Lett in his Chronicle:
Askrad, Holm, Ikevalda, Immekyl, Kogelse, Kubesele, Lenevarde, Letegore, Meemekyl, Metsepoole, Raupa, Rodenpois, Salatsi, Sattesele, Toreida, Vendekyl, Vitisele, and Ykskyl (the main settlement of Livonians along Väinä River).
He also names some important Livonians from the period 1186-1217.
Ako, Livonian tribal chief from Holm. Alo, Livonian from Ykskyl, Anno, tribal chief from Toreida. Asso, one of the Livonian Olders from Toreida, Dobrel, the Livonian Older from Sattesele, Geweder, Livonian from Holm. Kaupo, the last Livonian "Tribal King". Kulewene, Livonian from Ykskyl. Kyrian, Livonian from Ykskyl. Layan, Livonian from Ykskyl, Lembewalde, Livonian from Holm. Ninnus, one of the Livonian Olders. Uldenago, Livonian from Holm. Uldewene, one of the Livonian Olders from Lenevarde. Wade, Livonian from Holm. Waldeko, Livonian from Holm. Wane, one of the Princes of Livonians. Vesike, one of the Livonian Olders. Viezo, Livonian from Ykskyl. Vietzo, Livonian from Holm. Viliendi, Livonian from Holm. Ylo, Livonian from Ykskyl. Ymaut, Livonian who killed Bishop Bertold. Ysso, Livonian from Ykskyl.
It may be worth of mention, that some Livonian traders lived in Kyva (Kijev) in 942. Their names are mentioned in the "Tax payers catalogue of Kyva (Kijev)".
JN
