Talk:Living Proof: The Farewell Tour

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[edit] Save Up AlL Your Tears

When Did She Perform This? It Is On The DVD As A Bonus And There Is An Audience So It Can't Be A Rehearsal... And I Don't See It On This Page... Uses Wikipedia Alot 02:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

there is no physical evidence that Cher ever performed this on tour any comment from a fan is not valueble unless he/she commited a crime by recording a bootleg, and for ur information the SUAYT on the dvd you can tell she wasnt singin to anyone just look at the sides no people are there Rsf7589 02:58, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cher and Madonnas Tour

The facts of Cher's tour have not chaned.

Here is his column from July 5 2005 Ask Billboard by Keith Caulfield

FABBO FARWELL

Hi Keith, I have a quick one for you. I got an e-mail from a friend/die-hard Cher fanatic who claims Cher has had the most successful tour of all time. I tried googling the topic "most successful concert of all time" and all other combinations of those terms but have not found anything. I hope you can answer me on this one.

Thanks, and more power! Best Regards, RJ Jensen

Hi RJ,

While Billboard only maintains records of concert earnings and data going back to 1990, it's safe to say that Cher's most recent tour was the biggest and higest-grossing of any by a female artist.

Cher's three-year Living Proof Farewell Tour played 280 shows in North America, grossing $195 million and selling 2.88 million tickets. If you include Australia and Europe, the tour did 325 dates and well over $200 million in box office receipts.

Cher wrapped up the Living Proof tour April 29-30 at the Hollywood Bowl in Los Angeles, selling out both nights and grooing $2.8 million.

[edit] Sales

Billboard said confessions tour was most successful however guiness said cher was... therefore the key is to keep the source and say that guiness claims this...and since the article does say that cher's tour is most succesful according to guiness by you removing this info will be considered vandalism Rsf7589 01:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

24.239.177.167 23:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Consider away, but you may wish to review the Wikipedia definition of vandalism. As there is a conflict between Billboard and Guinness, both citations should be on both Cher's and Madonna's relevant pages. It does no harm and is informative. If push comes to shove, Billboard is the official paper of record for the recording/concert industry, so it trumps Guinness. However, I don't think the Guinness info should be deleted. Having the second-highest grossing tour would be no shame for either performer.

Also, when you revert grammatical changes back to the incorrect ones because you just know the new changes must be wrong, it doesn't make your argument any stronger. It makes them seem like kneejerk reversions.

24.239.177.167 02:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)While we're working on this page, could you (or someone else) please cite a source or a calculation as to how 52 additional concert dates could gross as much money as the previous 273? In other words, how was the imprecise "nearly $400 million" figure arrived at?

There is no logic to this detail. The figure is for the tour, regardless of it being 273 venues or 320 venues. Who would stop counting sales tickets part way through the tour? I suggest that the tour in total earned the quoted amount. There is no reference to additional sales, and no reference to the any figure other than that quoted. Therefore to say that it is vandalism to correct this detail is incorrect in itself. If there is a reference to say that the tour has been superceded as being best selling, then this is legitimate to use and correct. 60.234.242.196 09:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Support act in LONDON

Pam Ann the comedienne was the support act at the Wembley Arena dates in London... very funny and avant garde! Surely worth a mention on this page..213.146.133.4 14:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

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