Talk:Liverpool and Manchester Railway

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Why is Huyton Junction in the station list? Nessuno834 21:30, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

It certainly shouldn't be listed as a currently-open station, and I don't think it was ever a station (it's very close to Huyton), so I've removed it. --RFBailey 19:34, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
According to Whishaw in 1840 the intermediate stations were Broad Green, Roby Lane, Huyton Lane, Huyton Quarry (where one would expect a junction?), Kendrick's Cross, Lea Green, St. Helen's Junction, Collin's Green, Parkside, Kenyon Junction, Bury Lane, Flow Moss, Lamb's Cottage, Barton Moss, Patricroft, Eccles, Cross Lane Bridge. It is not however known when these opened. In early railways there were not such stations, generally the train would be stopped and boarded at a level crossing, adminstered by a crossing-keeper. Chevin (talk) 10:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Merger proposal

I propose that the article on the Liverpool and Manchester Railway Company should be merged here. It's a fairly short article which contains very little content, which could be included here because it's all relevant. --RFBailey 21:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Support: good idea, they fit together well. Shrew 13:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Support: Nessuno834 16:23, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Support: I completely agree Ed Podesta 10:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Support: How much did the shares cost? Tabletop 06:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Support: I support such a proposal. DonBarton 22:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Support: Agree; The new article should, however include details of rolling stock, particularly locomotives. See eg Edge Hill railway works: "by 1845 some twenty-eight engines were built ..." Peter Shearan 04:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Completed merger today. --Michael Johnson 11:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Good Article Review

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delisted GA per above.Sumoeagle179 16:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parallel rail

The Opening section says "By 1840, the track seems to have been largely replaced by parallel rail". What is this supposed to mean? That the pre-1840 track had non-parallel rails? --Jotel (talk) 08:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

"Booth's parallel rail": Top and bottom edges of the rail were parallel so it could be turned over and re-used when worn. It didn't work, because of the wear on the underside from the chairs made the intended new surface bumpy. Stephenson had used fish-belly rail. If nobody else gets to it I'll change this. --Old Moonraker (talk) 09:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Fixed. --Old Moonraker (talk) 09:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Fishbelly rails were castings. The parallel rails came in when it was possible to roll wrought iron. Whishaw describes five different classes of rail, in 1840, the fishbelly mostly superceded by "double parallel" form in various weights, what would in later years become "Bullhead" Chevin (talk) 10:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)