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Twin towns again

In the "International links" section, numerous places are listed as having "friendship links" and the like. Are there any reliable sources for these? Someone has just added somewhere in Gweru, Zimbabwe to the list. I couldn't find anything on google suggesting this should be there. I was tempted to remove it, then started wondering about some of the others too. --RFBailey 20:43, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I got the list of places with "friendship links" off Liverpool City Council's website: http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Community_and_living/Twinning/index.asp - do you think that's a good enough source? I'll try and see if they are mentioned on any other websites. Can you put the council's website down as a source on the main article because I'm not sure how to do it!! Ta - Kneale 02:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Relationship between two Liverpool Clubs

Really don't see why a citation needed tag is placed on this part. Where CAN one get evidence for it? It's purely anecdotal, but having been a local resident since birth, I have never, ever, once seen any sort of major clashes between fans of both Everton and Liverpool. --Jayau1234 14:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

There might be some research out there comparing club rivalries (e.g. Liverpool/Everton, Man Utd/Man City, Arsenal/Tottenham, Wolves/West Brom, etc.) that would be suitable to include as a citation, for instance. --RFBailey 14:37, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Church Street

I merged the article "Church Street, Liverpool" (essentially one sentence) into the section "Economy". Delete it if it does not seem notable. --B. Wolterding 15:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Gay scene

I notice this article does not contain any mention of the Liverpool gay scene. Most articles on cities do at least mention it. It makes it look as if gay people are not welcome in Liverpool and have moved out!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.104.81.0 (talk • contribs) 2007-05-24.

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The Beatles

Under the famous Liverpudlians heading, it says something to the effect of the Beatles being "one of the most, if not the most popular" musical groups from Liverpool. Given the fact that the Beatles are in fact the most popular musical act in history (from Liverpool or otherwise), I think it is safe to say that this is an understatement, and should be revised to reflect this fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.198.128 (talk • contribs) 08:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Scouseland

Scouseland is the Scouse name for the city and surrounding area and needs to be included along with the English name. It is a part of our identity and differentiates us from England (BBC Local History: Scouseland). -- Ekstazo 00:47, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I have not seen any other article on a city have it's local dialect name in the first line in the article. Perhaps this should be mentioned later in the article. Also, to how many scousers is Liverpool known as Scouseland? I personally know people from Liverpool and have visited the city and never before this have I come across the name Scouseland. Please let me know if you're from Scouseland and call it this on my talk page, alongside responding here. It would be interesting to know. Jackrm 03:08, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
User:Ekstazo, are you editing with an anon. IP to include that reference in the article lead-in? User:86.132.198.250? If so please edit the article using your standard username, otherwise you will run the risk of sockpuppet allegations, and anon. vandalism. On the reference itself: I think the number of reverts of this edit from various people suggests that the anon. IP is pushing a POV counter to the consensus of editors working on this article, and it might be an idea for that individual to just step back from that for a while and discuss it further on the talk page section here which User:Ekstazo has opened. ColdmachineTalk 09:16, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Paddy's wigwam

Added in the nickname of the Catholic cathedral,

hope no-one objects,

--Stanleytheman 21:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Free ODNB access

FYI:

New for August: Liverpool lives for the city's 800th birthday. http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/freeodnb/magazine/

May be useful for Liverpool- related articles. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 09:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Logo

One thing that I noticed on this page that seems to be a typo is that in the info-box there is an image titled 'Logo'. A more suited name would be 'Coat of Arms'. I would have changed this myself but I am not a very experienced editor, and do not know how. So if anyone could fix this, it would be much appreciated. Blubba112 07:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. It's a consequence of the one-size-fits-all {{Infobox Settlement}} being used, rather than a straightforward typo. --RFBailey 08:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Music

Most other city pages (see Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield and Glasgow) have sections on music, but this page is missing one. Considering Liverpool's vast musical heritage, this is surprising... Is there anyone out there who might volunteer to add this section? Annihilatenow 14:47, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Without trying to be boastful, but Liverpool is certainly one of those cities which punches well above its weight in terms of the arts in general. Although Liverpool is world famous for the Merseybeat scene, it has also been home to a mass of influential writers, artists, poets, actors (and, yes, a few comedians too) over the years. With the Capital of Culture almost upon us, perhaps it is better to have an entire separate article with a chronology of 'the Arts' and Liverpool, from the build up to Merseybeat, through to Clive Barker/The Everyman/Boys from the Blackstuff/Frankie Goes to Hollywood, and coming right up to date with the Capital of Culture...? (Hopefully also detailing some of the underground arts movements which have fueled such creativity over the decades?) JavaKid 10:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Stan Boardman ? Jimmy Tarbuck ? Cilla ? Apart from the Beatles, very little in terms of "culture" has come out of Liverpool. If anything, the city punches well below it weight compared to London or Manchester. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.90.253 (talk) 08:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


What a bizarre piece of bullshit. Goodness knows what you imagine has come out of manchester, but as for Liverpool's cultural content. It is, outside of london which has 10 times the population, the UK city with the greatest number of galleries, museums, theatres,public sculptures and listed buildings of any city in the UK, is the most filmed city in the country, has the most visited modern art gallery, teh largest collection of arts and artefacts in single ownership than anywhere in the nation, the place where more people visit said galleries and museums more often than any other, has the oldest china town in europe, the largest shopping development in Europe, the largest anglican cathedral on earth, teh most visually recognisable city in the nation other than London, the longest established symphony orchestra, teh first mosque in this country, the largest free music festival in Europe, the largest african festival and largest arab festival. It is according to Guiness the world capital of pop, having produced more number one records than any place on earth. It's is home to the most succesful football team in British sporting history and the world's greatest horserace. The city with the fast growing airport in Europe is a UN World Heritage site, the European Capital of Culture, and the host of the Royal Variety, The Turner Prize and The BBC Nativity will also host this years Tall ships race, the global liverpool sound concert, the Liberal democrat party conference, the WI conference, the MTV music awards and the BBC Sports personality of the year. So I'm confused by liverpool "producing very little of culture" and "punching below its weight compared to Manchester" (Manchester????!) Perhaps the references to "tarby and cilla" mean you measure culture by household names and personalities originating from a town. Hmm... I dunno, let's have a think:

Gladstone, George Stubbs the artist, The Beatles, Arthur Askey, Tommy Handley, Rob Wilton, Sir Rex Harrison, Glenda Jackson, Daniel Craig, Jason Isaacs, Pete Postlethwaite, Paul McGann and his brothers, Sue Jonson, Ricky Tomlinson, Alison Steadman, Frankie Vaughan, Michael Holiday, George Melly, Alexi Sayle, Paul O'Grady, Cilla Black, Patricia Routledge, Kenny Everett, Lee Mack, Phil Redmond, Bill Kenwright, Robert Runcie, John Birt, Peter Sissons, Jon Snow, Anne Robinson, Keith Chegwin, Janice Long, Les Dennis, Linda La Plante, Jimmy McGovern, Carla Laine, Berryl Bainbridge, Alan Bleasdale, Willy Russel, Derek Hatton, Jack Jones, Sporty Spice, Kerry katona, Nicola from girls aloud, Atomic Kitten, Geoffrey Hughes, Jean Alexander (Hilda Ogden), Peter Adamson (Len fairclough), Leonard Rossiter, Peter Serafinowic, Tony Booth, Cherie Blair, Sam Kelly, Gerry and the pacemakers, The Farm, the Lightning Seeds, Dr and the medics, Flock of Seagulls, China Crisis, The Real Thing, Roger Mcough, Craig Charles, Cathy Tyson, The sculptor Arthur Dooley, Levi Tafari, Eddie Braben (morecambe and wise;s joke writer), Tom O'connor, Margi Clarke, Ken Dodd, Jimmy Tarbuck, Stan Boardman, Faith Brown, John Conte, michael owen, Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerard, Robbie Fowler, Red Rum, Ray Quinn, The Searchers, Billy J Kramer, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, The Christians, John Lennon, Sonia, Dead Or Alive, Billy Fury, Elvis Costello, OMD, Claire Sweeney, Jennifer Ellison, Rita Tushingham, Echo and the Bunnymen, Icicle Works, Teardrop Explodes, The Merseybeats, The Swinging Bluejeans, George Davies (founder of next and the famous George of Asda!), Chris Boardman (the cyclist), Tom Baker, Kieran Bracken, Krishnan Guru-Murphy, Kenneth Cope (Randal and Hopkirk), Tom Bell, John Peel, Lewis Collins, Richard Stilgoe, Sir Simon Rattle (conductor Berlin Philharmonic), David Morrisey, Ian Hart, Ron Atkinson, John Parrot, Ted Robbins, Kate Robbins, Freddie Starr, Liza Tarbuck, Jean Boht (Bread), Derek Nimmo, Derek Guyler, Michael Angelis, Clive Barker, Kim Catrall, Tricia Penrose. Clive Swift, Brian Reade, Edwina Currie, Mal Young, Tony Holland, Tony Haygarth, David Yip (The chinese detective), Michael Stark, Philip Olivier, Jemini (! "nul points"!), Jim Bowen (was born here), Craig phillips- winner of the first big brother, Joe Fagan, Rick Astley, Gary Mavers, Elizabeth Sladen (Sarah Jane from Dr Who), Derek Acorah, John Aldridge, Terence Davies (movie director), Alex Curran, Bessie Bradock, Mick Miller, Danielle Lloyd, Brian Epstein, Eton Road, Jimmy Mulville, Bill Tidy, Norman Vaughan. Colleen McCloughlin, Mark Womack, Mimi from Shameless! (plus the bald copper), Paul Barber (Denzil from Only Fools..)..Jonny Vegas, Malandra Burrows, Clive Hornby, Debbie Greenwood, Pete Burns, Carol Decca, David Morrisey, Ramsey Cambell (horror writer), Nerys Hughes, The Wombats, the Zutons, Magda Szubanski (Babe, Kath and Kim), The casts (mostly) of...Bread, Brookside,Grange Hill, Liver Birds, Hollyoaks, Boys from the blackstuff, Lillies, Z cars,Scully, Liverpool one, merseybeat, nice guy eddie, The onedin line, Softly Softly..... and...by parentage.. Mike Myers, Halle Berry, Barbra Dickson and Bob Marley.

Among others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.145.161 (talk) 11:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Other

Elevation is given as 230ft ... is that correct, it is virtually on the sea RobChafer 17:06, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Pathfinder

Considering how controversial this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighbourhood_Management_Pathfinder_Programme scheme has been, I'm surprised its so bereft of content. Any Liverpudlians care to contribute? I have a couple of images of affected streets. Parrot of Doom 16:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

World Heritage Site!

Shouldnt this artical have a world heritage site infobox? Blackwave...... (talk) 19:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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