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[edit] Daniel Padin

Please do not remove the hoax tag again unless fully verifiable third party sources are provided to back up the claimns being made in the article.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 06:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I am tempted to remove the hoax tag and would like to know why it is not possible. Books and scholarly journal articles are more reliable than any source you can find through google.


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I understand that you have some reservations about claims made in the article. Some of them seem questionable and should be evaluated. The idea that the whole article should be deleted, however, seems ludicrous. There are many true and verified claims. This is my issue with the hoax sticker. It would be better to place a "This article has questionable claims" or "This article does not cite its sources" sticker instead.

With respect, the IAMS claim was added by you. A claim that Daniel Padin, born in 1980 created IAMS dog food which had been created some 30-40 years before he was born.

The hoax tag is not a deletion tag it quite clearly states, "The truthfulness of this article has been questioned. It is believed that some or all of its content might constitute a hoax. Please add reliable sources for the claims in the article or comment on the article's talk page." That does not mention about the whole article being deleted. As for "many true and verified claims" where exactly? The three links to websites do not veridy anything as they do not mention Daniel Padin which leaves then the two other sources, that is not "many true and verified claims", it is two sources which aren't easily checked out of the whole article.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 07:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

What it leaves is a published book and a scholarly journal article attesting to the truth of the claims. Much more reliable sources than anything you can find on google. As well they are verifiable. http://www.springerlink.com/content/t736657317h34226/. In light of this link I am once again tempted to remove the hoax tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlemerman8 (talk • contribs) 07:10, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

For the book: http://books.google.com/books?id=It6mGQAACAAJ&dq=The+Chicago+School:+How+the+University+of+Chicago+Assembled+the+Thinkers+Who+Revolutionized+Economics+and+Business Littlemerman8 (talk)

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] Nice try

OK, so let me get this right? The Daniel Padin article which makes no mention of a name of Randall, mentions about his work as a doctor as a trained neurosurgeon and visits New York hospitals. The article you are now attempting to use to verify this, discusses a D Randall Padin based at the Los Angeles County-University of Southern California Medical Center. It is also dated January 1988 and is from something dating back a further two years to July 1986, when Daniel Padin would have been aged what 5 years old? Nice try. By using that specific source to back up the content, you are claiming that he did it when he was 5 years old as a trained neuro-surgeon. If you are going to provide sources then they need to back up your claims and not do the opposite.

"What it leaves is a published book and a scholarly journal article attesting to the truth of the claims. Much more reliable sources than anything you can find on google. As well they are verifiable" Yes they are verifiable. The scholarly journal merely confirms about a D Randall Padin based in Los Angeles in 1986. The book link verifies nothing other than a link to the book. As for "much more reliable sources than anything you can find on google" the second link you provide, is to google. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 07:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

The scholarly article is our most reliable source. Correct? Clearly then Dr. Padin must have been born before 1980 and lived in California at that time. Therefore, we can question the date of birth given in the article, not the authenticity of the source. And therefore the IAMS claim becomes more credifiable. But, as I said, I'm willing to drop that. I have included the Randall in Daniel's name. It was an oversight.Littlemerman8 (talk) 07:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Daniel Padín

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