Talk:Little Saigon
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More northern Vietnamese were received by Canada. Read below on Page 7.
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~salaff/conference/papers/MPhan-DraftSinoVietnamese.pdf
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[edit] Scope
Isn't Little Saigon in this article defined to be Vietnamese communities in the US? This article has expanded to communities outside the US and even to communities that are DEFINITELY not considered "Little Saigon" (e.g. the Vietnamese communities in Eastern Europe, who are NOT formed by refugees but by former communist cadres, that are even called "Little Hanoi" instead of "Little Saigon"). Are we going to eventually mention the 5 million people living in Saigon as well?? I think we should either limit ourselves to communities in the US or rename the article to Expatriate Vietnamese communities or something similar. DHN 20:26, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
And I thought I was doing a good job looking and writing up all these up (very much a thankless job at that too).
You'll just be making the article too U.S.-centric in scope. Take a look at Chinatown, Koreatown, and Little India. I've attempted to use the model of Chinatown article on Little Saigon article. There are also many unnamed "Chinatowns" that act and are recognized as Chinatowns, but no mention of the population of Hong Kong or Mainland China were made in those articles.
- Thanks for your hard work. As I understand it, Little Saigon has a more subtle meaning than Little Tokyo or Chinatown. First, it was formed by people fleeing Vietnam as refugees after the Vietnam War, who are usually antagonistic towards the government of their home country. Second, it was named Little Saigon instead of Little Hanoi or Little Ho Chi Minh city because most of them came from the South and not other parts of Vietnam. How about moving the information regarding communities outside the US to Viet Kieu? DHN 00:44, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
I don't know. You were so quick in deleting and rewriting the entry for Czech Republic and then making your remarks here, but then you're not so quick to implement your own suggestions.
[edit] Portland, Oregon
I was surprised to see Portland, Oregon umentioned here. There is a significant Vietnamese American population in the area, mostly centered around Sandy Boulevard and 82nd street. The estimates I heard were over 35,000 Vietnamese Americans live here.
[edit] Oakland, Ca
San Pablo is NOT a suburb of Oakland. This is not even close... Oakland is in Alameda County. San Pablo is Contra Costa County.
That would be like saying that San Rafael is a suburb of San Francisco...
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- Wrong. Just because they're in different but adjacent counties, it does not necessarily mean they're not suburbs of a major city. For example, Irvine is way deep in Orange County, but it is still a suburb of Los Angeles area, just not a very close one.
[edit] Length of Article
I think this article is becoming rather lengthy. May I suggest we move the Little Saigon of Orange County into a separate sub-article? I think the scope of this article should be to cover Little Saigons in general; the information on the one in Orange County is rather lengthy. I'm not sure what to make of the long list with short stubs on each Little Saigon. I feel as though that should be moved into a sub-article as well. An example of which is List of named ethnic enclaves in North American cities being a sub-article for Ethnic enclave. Yellowtailshark (talk) 22:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'd rather have this article be solely about the one in Orange County and the others in an article called List of Vietnamese enclaves in the United States. It is the first and by far the most popular meaning of "Little Saigon". When you say "Little Saigon", this is usually what is meant. DHN (talk) 23:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
