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[edit] Open Access

Discussions in various places have led towards articles for open access journals being created first, initially from the DOAJ repository.

A first pass at automatically creating a list of missing open access journals is available, however the page takes 2 or 3 minutes to load: Wikipedia:List of missing journals/DOAJ.

[edit] Recently created

[edit] Afds

The following journals are being nominated for deletion:

[edit] Need work

The following journals have been created, but need to be reviewed and expanded on to avoid deletion.

[edit] Unsorted

Please add new entries here:

[edit] Zeitschrift für Kristallographie

A worldcat search for the first ISSN [4] opens up a screen with seven alternatives that appear to have separate OCLC numbers. The librarians clearly have their work cut out for them. There is at least a real paper edition and an electronic edition. Plus some kind of reprint edition based in New York. The Harvard catalog shows that the journal was first published in 1921 and changed its title in 1978. Publication was suspended from 1946 to 1954. The subtitle varied. More research needed. I doubt we can be more thorough than the Harvard catalog [5]EdJohnston 17:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Ed, as you can see I've re-arrange things a little. I wasnt expecting this section to include research findings, but it makes sense to add details whilst the entry is still in "Unsort", so discussion can determine what should happen with the journal.
Your analysis of this journal is enlightening; it demonstrates that entries may need to hang around in Unsorted for a while, and that ISSN/OCLCs are not sufficient to identify a journal.
I have proposed, on the talk page, a few new templates that we should consider in order to record a journals details whilst they are being investigated, so that they can assist us jump to the offsite records easily.
I have found 127,000 google results for this journal, and 6,350 on google scholar (which we should include in the Template:Missing journal). As it has been around for quite a while resulting in an interesting history, and appears to be cited outside of WP, I think it would be a good idea to keep working on this one, in order that we can determine how much of the work should be done here before a stub is created. In the very least, I think it is important that the stub list all of the OCLCs and ISSNs in a usable manner. IMO, to not do so is essentially misleading the reader. Also, one issue you have brought home is that existing databases already record the nuts and bolts of the journal publication details (publisher, format, etc) -- if we are to do this well, the WP entry for the journal needs to be an orthoganal resource to DOI and OCLC entries -- by joining multiple "publications" of a journal that are primarily linked by ethos rather than publisher, then the WP article adds value rather than duplicating existing information. John Vandenberg 23:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Le Bulletin de la Société Sciences Nat

I've created a new article Sciences Nat for a publisher of some very specific books (which I had lots of fun trying (unsuccessfully) to find ISBNs for; see Special:Whatlinkshere/Sciences Nat). The research that I have done this evening leads me to think that it was as much a society as a publisher, and may have actually actually published the journal itself, rather than merely contributing to is (which is all that I am bold enough to state on the article at this stage). John Vandenberg 13:03, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ulam Quarterly

  • User:Jayvdb/Ulam_Quarterly : google: 21,300
  • The article for this journals Editor-in-Chief, "Piotr Blass" has been repeatedly put up for Afd; the third is currently underway (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Piotr Blass (third nomination)). I'm not keen on the article/person/whatever, but I was rather interested in this journal because it is a very minor journal, and many of the papers are by the journal staff, etc etc. This made me wonder, is it notable? Until today, I havent really considered how the notability criteria would apply to journals, as they are usually well cited. In this case, the journal was mostly online, so WP:WEB could apply but the way that guideline reads makes it hard to use for this purpose. John Vandenberg 05:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
MathSciNet (run by the American Mathematical Society) shows a grand total of 18 citations from their indexed journals to the Ulam Quarterly. This compares to 6,100 citations to the Journal of the American Statistical Association, as an example. I figure this implies that the Ulam Quarterly is not notable. Do you know what the notability criterion is for journals? I would more likely consider this as a scientific journal and try to quantify its impact, rather than apply WP:WEB. EdJohnston 04:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Im quite sure that Ulam Quarterly is not notable from a perspective of being scientific, but I dont think there is an accepted specific notability criteria for journals (or sources of content of any sort for that matter). My reason for looking into this further is that it is a "source" that was distributed independently; i.e. even if the content was not notable, maybe because it was distributed widely (see [6], [7] and [8]) means that it warrants a page on Wikipedia to objectively cover the source and content it carried. It looks like WP:SCI may be taking it under its wing; just now I see there is a discussion going on at Wikipedia talk:Notability (science)#Scientific journals. John Vandenberg 05:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
This continues the question you and I once discussed of whether WP articles on journals are important. Since I tend to believe that articles are important if influential (usually correlated with being widely cited) then it doesn't matter where they appear. One case where an article on a journal might be informative to WP readers is where the journal is marginal or flaky. Then the readers could be put on notice that something isn't a 'real journal'. This has been suggested about the Journal of Scientific Exploration, mentioned at [9]. I am pleased to see JSE included in a category called Category:Fringe science journals, though I imagine some people would criticize the existence of such a category. EdJohnston 06:28, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
This 'journal' certainly appears to be marginal (low citations) and flaky. Is there a term used to describe journals that are created primarily as a way for the editors to publish their own work? If so, we could look for others like it and create a category for them. John Vandenberg 13:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
There are many titles in the general category of professional magazines that are less than formal journals, but still noteworthy in particular ways. There is a very inadequate page on them: Science magazine. I have intended to expand the article for some time and i will do so shortly. There is a very incomplete list there, and at some point it should be much expanded. There is, of course, no clear distinction: the best known title in this category is Chemical and Engineering News, and it is as authoritative as any peer-reviewed journal. DGG 06:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I noticed many moons ago that {{cite magazine}} redirects to {{cite journal}} in order to allow magazines to be used in the same way as journal sources. I wouldnt be surprised if the WP:LOMJ list contains a few magazines as well. John Vandenberg 13:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Difficult journal names

Occurances of these journals are hard to pin down because they use common phrases. These will be used to fine tune the template in order to assist eliminate the phrase in normal usage.

  • Identifier: ISSN 1361-2042. Note that a misspelled version of this ISSN, 1316-2042, was found in Kathleen Ollerenshaw (just corrected it -- EdJ)
  • The journal is also listed on the web site of the Institute of Mathematics and its Applications, [10]

[edit] Unqualified

The following journal names are used on Wikipedia yet do not match a single journal. Either it is really a journal it its own right, or more likely each instance needs to be clarified to refer to a journal with a similar name.

[edit] Comptes Rendus

  • Comptes rendus is a series of titles containing the proceedings of the Academie Francais. This has been published at various times in 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 different subject sections, for about 200 years. Most of the sections have changed their titles and subject coverage, usually 2 or 3 times. All of them have also changed their titles from one form of the French title to another several times, and then also changed them to English. For finding particular articles, or tracing the history of the titles, the assistance of an expert librarian is recommended. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs) 21:37, 17 December 2006
I have renamed this as Comptes rendus de l'Académie des sciences, without the initial article, to match the French title--the usual rule is not to use the article unless the journal uses it very consistently and conspicuously. I think I've cleaned up any double redirects. I'll get back to work on the others eventuallyDGG (talk) 06:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comptes rendus des séances de la Société des Sciences et des Lettres de Varsovie is used on Prefix notation.
  • Society: Société des sciences et des lettres de Varsovie
  • One of many periodicals by the society: OCLC 72770440
  • Society: Congrès des mathématiciens des pays slaves
  • Identifier: OCLC 73208816
  • Comptes Rendus de l'Académie des Inscriptions et Belles Lettres is used on Kindites and Enkomi
  • Comptes Rendus (Doklady) Acad. Sci. USSR is used on Ivan Yefremov
  • Society: Société de biologie
  • Identifier: OCLC 8096207
  • Comptes Rendus Hebdomadaire des Seances de l'Academie des Sciences is used on Polynesian sandpiper
  • Society: Société de biologie
  • Identifier: OCLC 8096229
  • Society: Société de biologie
  • Identifier: OCLC 8096213
  • Comptes Rendus du Second Congrès Ornithologique International is used on Proardea
  • Possible match: Second congrès ornithologique international tenu à Budapest en mai 1891. OCLC 64043738
  • Comptes rendus du groupe linguistique d'études Chamito-Sémitiques is used on Aramaic of Hatra
  • By GLECS: Groupe linguistique d'études chamito-sémitiques. 2003, ISBN 2858311420

I think that Comptes Rendus & Comptes rendus should be a dab page so people know that they to be more precise when linking to the journal. John Vandenberg 13:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Journal of Educational Research

[edit] Priority creation queue

The following journals are often cited on Wikipedia:

[edit] 100+

[edit] Journal of the Royal Statistical Society

History:

[edit] 50+

[edit] 20+

[edit] <20

[edit] Of interest

These journals are mentioned in the article text of Wikipedia articles (i.e. not citations)

[edit] Elsevier schisms

Further information: Elsevier#Criticism

[edit] Journal of Logic Programming

[edit] Journal of Algorithms

[edit] To be added to redlink list

The following journal names are used on Wikipedia but are not listed on missing journals.

[edit] 20+

Please move these up to the Priority creation queue if they are important journals.

[edit] 10+

[edit] Canadian Journal of Mathematics

[edit] <10

  • Mathesis Polska (wp gwp g | eb 1911 co en gct sw) : 1 - Ham sandwich theorem
    • OCLC 8872061
    • Latin for Polish Mathematics (wp gwp g | eb 1911 co en gct sw)
    • "A reference is made to the pre-World War II journal Mathesis Polska (Latin for "Polish Mathematics"). This journal is not easy to locate. It was finally located in the mathematics library of the University of Illinois, which seems to be the only library in the United States having the complete journal." [12]
    • NOTE (by EdJohnston): This journal ceased publication in 1938, before the era of ISSNs. It can be found on worldcat only under its OCLC number.

[edit] Broken journal names

The list of missing journals may have entries that are not journal names, or are not notable. Please discuss them here in sub-sections.

[edit] Journal of Economics

Journal of Economics (wp gwp g | eb 1911 co en gct sw) : 302 A journal by this name is not listed on List of scholarly journals in economics. This journal name is predominately used prefixed e.g.:

Without those journals I can trim the list down to 43 items: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:wikipedia.org+%22Journal+of+Economics%22-%22Quarterly+Journal+of+Economics%22-%22Swedish+Journal+of+Economics%22-%22Cambridge+Journal+of+Economics%22-%22American+Journal+of+Economics+and+Sociology%22-%22Canadian+Journal+of+Economics%22-%22North+American+Journal%22-%22RAND+Journal%22&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N John Vandenberg 12:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Invalid ISSNs

[edit] 0602-6098

ISSN 0602-6098 gs fails the validity check, yet it is listed on the Nautical Archaeology Society website: http://www.nasportsmouth.org.uk/about/index.php and on Salcombe Cannon Wreck. Note that their websites indicates that this is their "members' newsletter of events", and is not International Journal of Nautical Archaeologywc. John Vandenberg 23:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

  • This has been dealt with via Jayvdb's creation of {{Listed Invalid ISSN|0602-6098}}. Keesiewonder talk 11:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 0763-7247

This is an interesting one; Zviad Gamsakhurdia has this citation:

(English)/(Georgian) "Gushagi" (Journal of Georgian political emigrés), Paris, No 1/31, 1994. ISSN 0763-7247

The link checker [13] says the ISSN is invalid, yet WorldCat finds a record [14], and then doesnt display the ISSN on the main record [15].

I'm not sure what to do with this one; two possible explanations:

  1. The ISSN validity checker we are using isnt 100% accurate
  2. WorldCat stores invalid ISSNs when they are in common usage

John Vandenberg 01:17, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I've the feeling that Worldcat is being coy. Actually Amazon.com still does this. They used to just hand over the record for a book when you searched with an invalid ISBN, if it was published that way. These days they tell you that they can't find anything, but if you go and search for the book the old-fashioned way it shows up, with no ISBN listed. The policy of http://booksinprint.com and http://abebooks.com is more clear-cut, because they refuse to search for an invalid ISBN, and they tell you right up front that it's invalid. I think it's more useful to the customer for the seller to report promptly that the id number being used is invalid. Otherwise the customer may go on searching and searching, just believing that it happens to be out of stock at each place.
Since Wikipedia is a major informational resource, I think that we ourselves would not be doing good service if we keep around invalid ISSNs in our articles. Worldcat, if it keeps the bad ones around, ought to flag them as such, which is hard to do when you never even tell the searcher that their number is invalid. LOC tries to keep around invalid ISBNs, suitably flagged, but the records of this are so fragmentary it's not very useful. EdJohnston 03:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I've replaced the invalid ISSN 0763-7247 with the OCLC 54453360.
As an aside on the invalid ISSNs that are being recorded -- the loc.gov tagged record for "Gushagi" shows
022   $y0763-7247
while "Zeitschrift für Kristallographie" shows
022   $a0044-2968
and "Journal of the Royal Statistical Society" shows
022   $a0035-9246
I'm thinking that $y is used to denote that the entry is invalid. John Vandenberg 00:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
$y does indicate the ISSN is invalid.[16] John Vandenberg 13:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Glad you tracked that down! EdJohnston 05:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)