Talk:List of universities in Ukraine

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[edit] subgroups proposed

Just an idea. We all know that the term "University" underwent a significant devaluation in Ukraine lately as every nominally Higher Educational Institution styled itself "the University" that resulted in proliferation of the Universities which are basically the same Harch-Prom, Culture, etc. institutes as they were before. Even some Tekhnikums might have had guts to rename themselves to Universities. Also, some no doubt solid Institutes, such as Kiev and Lviv Polytechnics, Kharkiv Institute of Radio-Electronics, several Medical Institutes are among those new Universities (personally, I find it a pity, old historical institutions like Lviv and Kiev Polytechnics had every reason in the world to proudly carry their names).

As per this, I suggest to have a separate shorter list of Universities at the top of the article that fit the true definition of the term, that is "an institution of higher education and research, which grants academic degrees at all levels (bachelor, master, and doctorate) in a variety of subjects." There is such university in almost every Oblast center (two in Kiev, the KU and KMA). Then, separately we proceed with the rest of the institutions that despite being styled as "the Universities" do not offer programs in a "variety of fields", basically remaining the same Medical, Electronics, Polytechnic and other institutions. There was a discussion about this at Talk:Culture_of_Ukraine but no action came out of it. Besides, this long out of the view article is by far more appropriate for this material than a much more general Culture of Ukraine. Thoughts? --Irpen 22:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)