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We seem to have two lists: one is 'List of universities in Australia', the other is 'List of Australian Universities'

I say merge into List of universities in Australia, as it is the clearer and cleaner of the two, and conforms with titles like Transportation in Australia, List of cities in Australia, List of mountains in Australia, etc. TPK 11:20, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
i agree, i have made it so. clarkk 02:06, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Note that the lists of places where the unis are is rather incomplete. matturn 11:45, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] New heading suggestion-Collaborative bodies - research/teaching - non-award

I just added the Helpmann Academy article. I want to add a heading something like the above - some of these bodies are significant. Not sure where. Paul foord 05:36, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] How do we fit RTOs - more like TAFE than Uni

We have TAFE here and probably need to maintain some cosistancy with other nations. Added Mission Australia and Institute for the Nations - Australia Paul foord 13:30, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

There is a potential problem with classification, yes. The universities are clearly in, the half dozen "near-universities" with university style self-assessment and funding should IMO also be in - the contraversial bit is the large number of institutions that deliver higher education of their own design, but first have it approved by a state or territory government.
They are not universities - they cannot legally use the name locally, and they don't fit the definition of "university" in many/any other countries either. But they still offer what most Australians would consider "university courses", and someone completing such courses can call themselves a "uni student" under Australian usage of the term. cf this with the US colleges that aren't universities but would be considered such by most Australians.
The AVCC has noted the lack of clear definition of what a uni is, and is presently calling on stronger defining of the term (http://www.avcc.edu.au/content.asp?page=/news/media_releases/2005/avcc_media_07_05.htm).
Probably the best solution is to move the "other higher ed" bodies to another page, and link to it (with a brief explanation of the Australian higher ed institution situation) from this one. matturn 14:32, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RTOs most are vocational educationn and training

have created new category Category:Australian vocational education and training providers for this group, ie, Mission Australia, TAFE, etc Paul foord 13:50, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] If a TAFE issues its own degrees, that makes it a...

TAFEs (especially in Victoria) are moving into the position once held by CAEs. They're starting to issue degrees and other higher ed awards under the auspices of state governments. In Victoria, there are many government owned insitutions that teach both higher ed and VET courses of their own design - some are called "universities" and some are called "TAFEs". The difference is becoming more and more blurred.

Once the federal education department finishes it's present review of the sector, things could get even more confusing. matturn 07:35, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

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The PNGs just result in the Commons deleted image icon (red X sign).Greentubing 21:40, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] NSW and ACT

These two areas are best merged as half of the unis in the ACT operate in NSW. Additionally, is the ANU an ACT university, or is it national as it's name suggests? While it only has campuses in the ACT, it does operate further afield. matturn 08:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

The Australian National Universtiy is a national university, as it is the only Australian university established by an Act of Federal Parliament in 1946. So it is the only national university in Australia as its name suggests. Uwaa 06:45, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but no Australian universities are national in the sense of being 'nationwide' (except insofar as they offer distance education, but to that extent they're generally 'worldwide'). Indeed, I've never heard of any university anywhere which operates on a nationally-distributed basis. mgekelly 08:09, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
The closest we have to a university operating on a national basis is the Australian Catholic University with campuses in NSW, QLD, Vic and the ACT. In fact the university's marketing department has branded the uni as ACU National Soundabuser 09:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other self-accrediting higher education institutions

Given the changed composition of Lists A and B, I believe all the institutions in this list should be included as universities. Is there any current regulation that treats Batchelor, MCD and the soon-to-be-defunct AMC differently from "universities"? 203.33.3.2 (talk) 00:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC)