Talk:List of traditional Chinese musical instruments

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[edit] suggestion that this article be merged with Chinese orchestra

I strongly disagree. Traditional Chinese musical instruments is about the the instruments themselves whereas Chinese orchestra is about their use in the modern Chinese orchestra, which is a 20th development modelled on the western symphony orchestra with seperate first, second string sections, wind sections etc. LDHan 10:32, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Disagree that the two articles be merged. But the way the Chinese orchestra article is written (discussing each instrument rather than the history of this modern Chinese large traditional instruments orchestra) makes it very similar to the Traditional Chinese musical instruments article. Also, the ancient (and often large) court orchestras are not addressed; are these a type of "Chinese orchestra" as well? They should probably also be discussed in Chinese orchestra. But I agree that the two articles are different; one about the instruments (basically a list), and the other should be about the development and composition of Chinese large orchestras. Badagnani 04:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Chinese orchestra needs expanding to include the history, development and composition of different types of Chinese orchestras, not just the modern large orchestra. LDHan 11:13, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Disagree as well. The TCMI article is not the same as the CO article in one main way. Some of the instruments listed in the TCMI do not exist in a modern CO, such as the guqin, which will seem out of place on a CO article. The CO article should focus on how the instruments used in CO fit in, whilst the TCMI one should focus on listing and making short comments about each individual instrument, with links to articles that are created in their names. --CharlieHuang 00:00, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, some ancient/obsolete instruments were used in ancient Chinese orchestras but as far as I know I don't think the guqin was used in large ancient orchestras either. Badagnani 00:06, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Most common?

So many are listed here. What are the most common traditional Chinese instruments one might find or hear in a city like Toronto, if you only had to name under 5?--Sonjaaa 07:03, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

The most common would be pipa, erhu, guzheng, dizi, and yangqin. LDHan 10:51, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I would add Ruan (Zhong Ruan)to the list of most common instruments as it often appears in small ensembles. They can be found in ethnic shops in cities like Seattle and here in Tokyo. It is an often overlooked but very important ensemble and solo instrument. Tkoind--—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkoind (talk • contribs)

[edit] Which Hanzi in Sanxian?

I've noticed 三弦 sānxián has been replaced by 三線 sānxiàn (note different tone). Which is the right one? LDHan 09:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, was unicodifying it and accidently deleted it, so I used the Japanese 「線」 instead. 「弦」 is correct, though I find 「絃」 more etymologically correct, since the instrument is plucked, rather than bowed which would mean 「弦」 would be correct. See the Etymological notes on the word 'string' in the Guqin article for more clarification. But since everyone uses 「弦」, we will use it here too. --CharlieHuang 12:49, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User templates for musicians of Chinese instruments

I've created a whole set of user templates for users who play any major Chinese traditional musical instrument for them to use on their userpages here: Category:Wikipedian Chinese instrument players. It is by no means complete yet, but I plan to put every major Chinese instrument there. I won't put the minor ones as I doubt there will be many who specialize in those, but you could of course create a template or the full set of templates for your instrument if I haven't already created it. --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 12:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 缶

Was this used in yayue? An earthen jar: 缶. Badagnani 05:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I think it was... --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 10:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Liang Tsai-Ping says it was. Badagnani 20:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template for stubs

Use this for Chinese music related stubs. --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 10:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ancient Chinese instruments

To evaluate: website listing ancient Chinese instruments. Badagnani 20:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

To evaluate: Taiwanese musical instruments. Badagnani 01:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

To evaluate:

胡笳 (hújiā)

1. (archaic) a reed pipe adopted by the Chinese from nomadic peoples of Central Asia in ancient times and used in military music.

What was this instrument, exactly, and should it be added? In which section? Badagnani (talk) 09:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Photos of ancient instruments here, here, and here. Badagnani (talk) 22:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Very comprehensive article giving many names of instruments. Badagnani (talk) 21:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dahanqin

Is there such an instrument as the dahanqin (大漢琴), as seen here? Badagnani (talk) 20:52, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 轉調箏

Add 轉調箏 (as seen at YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%E8%BD%89%E8%AA%BF%E7%AE%8F&search_type= ) Badagnani (talk) 20:10, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 蝴蝶筝

Add 蝴蝶筝 (as seen at http://you.video.sina.com.cn/b/5282881-1239512600.html ). Badagnani (talk) 20:42, 1 February 2008 (UTC)