Talk:List of town tramway systems
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I started this page as an "all-time" list of cities and towns that have, or once had, "town tramway" service, also known as "urban tramway," "streetcar" and "light rail transit."
The intent is to list "all" tramway cities, including type of traction (horse, cable, electric) and key dates by year (opening, electrification, closing).
The distinction between "town tramways" and other rail transit service is not "well-defined." For example, some short "interurban electric railways" in the U.S. might also be considered as "town tramways," serving two adjacent (or nearby) towns.
Although it is not the intent to duplicate the "List of light-rail transit systems," separate lists for "closed" and "operating" systems might be confusing. For the time being, I have included "operating" systems together with "closed" ones.
I have "complete" information for a handful of countries, but partial (or none) for others. I'll make the list of countries and continents, and add the information I have on hand. Ldemery 00:46, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
I have divided the list into three sections to keep file size under control. Ldemery 23:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Doesn’t the size of the files justify splitting further into North America, South America & Oceania? While Oceania is first, South Americans have to page thru all of Oceania and North America to get to South America? The Trams in Australasia article needs splitting into Trams in Australia & Trams in New Zealand (where I am) too; will do when I have time (& add NZ refs). (Australasia being roughly equivalent to Oceania, though there may have been the odd horse system in Fiji or PNG; leaving out Hawaii which is part of Oceania!). Hugo999 12:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
At this point, the answer is "yes, and then some!" That is my "next" project folowing completion of "wikitabling." Ldemery 05:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I have split the "Oceania, North America and South America" list into three parts: "Oceania," "North America" and "Central and South America." I have also moved Hawaii to Oceania (. . . which will probably attract multiple re-edits . . .), retaining a link in the "North America" list. I have also added links as appropriate for "transcontinental countries," e.g. Turkey. Ldemery 08:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
From checking “Cane Train” there were tramway systems in Levuka from 1884 and Suva from the 1880s – horses and manpower. Mentioned in passing as outside the scope of the book. Plus the 1986 (from cane railway gear) the 16 km Coral Coast Railway Co for tourists to Natadola Beach (well that’s a railway). Will add to Oceania. Hugo999 14:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
I've added "Cane Train" to the book list. 71.217.50.180 05:08, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
“Rail transport in Fiji” seems the best page to have for both the “Cane Railways” which are usually called tramways though really light railways and the two urban tramways; two 19c passenger tram systems in Levuka & Suva does not justify a separate page/article! (Or call it Railways and tramways in Fiji?). Hugo999 09:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Changed "Van der Gragt" in: Gragt, Frits van der | ibid. added second Dutch source of HTM LRV nl:GTL8 / Borgdorff ing.D.A. & Ploeger (LL.M.) mr.Dr.H.D. / The Hague, Netherlands - 2000 / HTV (association) --- about Hague articulated tram type GTL8 =>86.83.155.44 13:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] References - please cut the vandalism, "DAJF"
I have removed the "unreferenced" tags that "DAJF" has placed, repeatedly, on "sub-lists" for various countries, "broken" out of this list for the purpose of reducing file size.
This repeated placing of "unreferenced" tags - together with removal of the "References" line, with the internal link "Books, Periodicals and External Links" on each "sub-list," constitutes vandalism.
It is also not consistent with practices related to 1.) formatting ... and 2.) common courtesy ... that I have seen elsewhere in "Wikipedia" articles.
If "DAJF" wishes to divide the "Books," "Periodicals" and "External Links" sections of this list among the sub-lists, then he certainly should not hesitate to do so. Whether this is a "good idea" is not clear, because it would generate significant duplication, so "DAJF" might want to outline his scheme before executing it. Ldemery (talk) 03:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
