Talk:List of television show casting changes

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[edit] SNL

I don't know who decided to add Jimmy Fallon's leaving SNL on the list, but it's a bad idea. SNL's casting changes every year, is already covered in the SNL article, and Jimmy Fallon isn't close to being the most important person to leave the show. Removed it; kept the note about the 1980 changes since it is rare for almost the entire cast of a show (not to mention its producer) to leave.--Bjeversole 07:54, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] News programs

Should nightly news programs be included? They're not the same character. I mean no one is playing Peter Jennings. I don't think they're the point of this article, and I'm tempted to remove them. Captain Jackson 03:24, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Maybe creating a sub-section for the news shows would be another option. Also, they're currently in the first section, not the "same character, different actor" section, so that doesn't necessarily have to imply that they were playing a character. -- Bovineone 08:28, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
It will be a long article then. A channel starts in the 1950s, and runs 50 years with a news service that entire time, so its news will have had many personnel changes! Seems like a pretty pointless addition. Format 08:49, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More "same character, different actor" from JTS

There are a few more instances of "same character, different actor" listed on the Jump The Shark website, if someone has the time to go through them. -- Bovineone 06:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] prod, deletion proposal

This article was created by merging multiple other articles and contributed by many users, so there is a lot of interest in such a list. The criteria is not entirely arbitrary, since the inclusion criteria is well-defined and understood. The references for the items included are generally verifiable by visiting the corresponding articles on each show or character that is linked. I agree that the article does generally have a U.S. bias, but that is also a symptom of most pop-culture articles on the en wikipedia; contributions of more such instances from other non-U.S. shows are welcome. It might be useful to split this article into multiple articles by country of show production, if there is a desire to specifically emphasize U.S. bias in a designated place (or just to help manage article size). -- Bovineone 18:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darrin Syndrome.

The "Same Character, Different Actor" section is also covered on the Darrin Syndrome page. I believe the explanation belongs here, but I think the examples list should be combined onto one page or the other.

Duggy 1138 08:31, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Darrin Syndrome merits its own article. Except for Bewitched and Roseanne, both of which relate to the Darrin issue in different ways, the examples belong over here. Doczilla 13:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

That sounds exactly like the sort of thing I was thinking about.
Duggy 1138 03:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Movies

If this is TV Show Casting should films be even mentioned? Possibly a split or renaming "Cast Changes"?

Duggy 1138 10:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

This article is an unmanageable mess. Too many diverse topics have been lumped together in the same list. There are too many different kinds of cast changes for this page to be a useful reference for anyone. Same Character, Different Actor should have its own article (probably under a different title like Recast TV roles), not be lumped in with actor additions, departures, deaths that don't involve recasting of parts. Doczilla 13:53, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Plus, so level of importance should probably be considered. A lot of character cast happened on Law & Order, but do we need to list them all?
Duggy 1138 03:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Originally, there was a separate page just for "Same Character, Different Actor", but it was merged because there was an excessive amount of entry duplication caused by the misunderstanding of the difference. Combining onto one page at least allows people to easily use Ctrl-F to search and see if something already exists before adding it again. -- Bovineone 17:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
The "misunderstanding", of course, came about because "Casting Changes" covers both. You can't use a name that means a variety of things can only mean one thing.
Duggy 1138 08:22, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
And because the word "replace" is frequently misused. Either the character is recast, or a new character is written. I think both topics should stay together, but the article needs cleaning up and clarification. Itsmeiam 06:12, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Seems someone agreed with me. Duggy 1138 11:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I think we need to create a "Change of character in movie series" page (Probably with a better title) and put the deleted movie details there. Anyone interested? Duggy 1138 01:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chuck Cunningham Syndrome

Added a short section on Chuck Cunningham Syndrome, since article was deleted. "Chuck Cunningham Syndrome" can apply to television show casting changes

[edit] DARRIN SYNDROME

I think that the Darrin Syndrome should be splitted in a different article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.212.8.58 (talk) 21:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC).

Darrin Syndrome articles have been created in the past, but then deleted due to lack of references, and original research problems. Format 04:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Significant" changes.

I think we need to find some definition of significant cast changes, as it is seeming any change to the regular cast is being added ATM...

Duggy 1138 23:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Circular citation

There are two sentences in this article that cite a particular blog entry as a source. That blog entry was written in November, 2007, and it refers to the Chuck Cunningham Syndrome Wikipedia article, which apparently has been combined with this article. In other words, this article now cites a blog entry that cites this article. I don't think that's a valid citation. --Elysdir (talk) 07:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stargate Atlantis

Quote: "Lt. Aiden Ford (Portrayed by Rainbow Sun Francks) was reduced to a recurring character after season 1 of "Stargate Atlantis". He was seen in four episodes of season 2, and has not been heard from since." Should that really be listed under "a character simply disappears and is never mentioned again"? First, he didn't "simply disappear" so much as "leave Atlantis of his own free will"; and second, he's mentioned after his last "disappearance" in the same episode it took place in (see the last five lines of the transcript here). --DocumentN (talk) 18:10, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I can't vouch for most of the other deletions in that edit, though; they look like legitimate examples to me.
Also, it's not clear what's meant by the phrase "because of the nature of the show" in the 24 example. --DocumentN (talk) 08:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] In-show references to actor changes

I have added a section about in-show references where character directly or indirectly refer to the fact that an actor has changed. Please add more examples.--Ralphy512 March 11th, 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 17:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Josh Meyers

Josh Meyers joining the cast of That 70s Show is listed twice, once under 'Change to main character' as a replacement for Topher Grace and once under 'Other significant changes' as a replacement for Ashton Kutcher. Should these be combined? Amckie (talk) 20:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disappearing characters

  • Some entries have the actors' names listed, while other entries have the characters' names listed. Which should it be? Anthony Rupert (talk) 15:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)