Talk:List of sunken battleships

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[edit] Welcome to Editors

Welcome! I hope you enjoy improving this article as much as I did constructing it. My vision for this article is that it focuses on information related to the loss and current status of these ships, and that it enables understanding of the similarities and dissimilarities in:

  • The story of the loss of these ships.
  • The current conditions of these ships.
  • Issues in preserving the remains of these ships.

My vision is that this article is generally "subservient" to the general article about battlecruisers and "subservient" to all the specific articles about the individual ships. Interesting information about the career histories of the various individual ships should be contributed to the individual ship-specific articles. Key summary information about each ship is appropriate here. Beyond summary information, however, I believe that all the interesting details about a specific ship should be used to expand the article on that specific ship.

[edit] Warning to Editors

Once you get beyond the most famous ships, I think you'll find a great deal of conflicting, incomplete, inaccurate, or misleading information on the Internet about warships. I've read puzzling articles about Chilean aircraft carriers battling Japanese submarines and about a Spanish armada destroying Admiral Darlan's most modern ships. It is hard to tell if these are reprinted 1930s era propaganda or modern alternative history fiction. The Internet can be an "echo chamber" where incorrect "facts" get re-used and re-printed over and over, making it hard to properly utilize the journalistic rule about three independent sources for a fact.

When contemplating adding historical facts about these ships, please be careful about your sources and references, so that you don't import external errors and misinformation into Wikipedia.

[edit] Invitation to Contributors

We need more pictures! As there are separate articles about many of these ships, I would recommend that we only include here pictures related to the sinking or to exploration or conservation of the wrecks. We need to find available pictures and properly import them into Wiki Commons for us to use.

Much of the information in this article should be a subset of information in the articles about the individual warships. The following ships did not have any individual articles, or had only the slimmest of stubs. You are particularly invited to research the following ships and build or improve their specific articles:

There are some unresolved questions about some ships that aren't quickly answered by Internet search. If you have the ability to provide more thorough and reliable research into the following questions, it would be appreciated.

  • USS Texas (1892): Scrapped or still sunk? There is no quickly available history of this ship being raised and scrapped. However, the location of sinking and available photos suggests partial or complete scrapping likely.
  • Slava: Scrapped or still sunk? There is no quickly available history of this ship being raised and scrapped. However, the location of sinking makes partial or complete scrapping likely.
  • Heireddin Barbarossa: Scrapped or still sunk? There is no quickly available history of this ship being raised and scrapped. However, the location of sinking makes partial or complete scrapping likely.
  • SMS Thüringen: Scrapped or scuttled? There are articles and photographs on the Internet indicating that significant wreckage still exists in place.

Can anybody populate a naval flag template for the Regia Marina? I can't figure out how to get this template populated. There is an article on the Regia Marina, and there is a template for the country called Kingom of Italy. There is a flag for the Regia Marina. How do we get all these linked using a navy template?

Based on the contributions and edits provided, I am removing the essay warning tag as no longer relevant. Carl Gusler (talk) 03:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Keep it Simple

Its a list, many of the ship sections have unneccesary info. The articles go into detail about the battleship. Only the date, where it was sunk, the condition, the navy and how the battleship was sunk should be included in each entry. Some of the info is not even interesting or relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.119.63 (talk) 11:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)