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[edit] Consistent Format

I think this page needs consistent format. For example, the first group of classes (as you school down from the top of the page) are arranged in a table. The next group of classes are not though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.180.194.67 (talk) 23:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Prestige Class Creation Cookbook

The link to LPJ Design's Prestige Class Creation Cookbook under External Links appears to be in violation of Wikipedia:External Links, since this is simply a "list of" and not a description of how PRCs came into being. It seems to serve no purpose but to advertise the product. 138.163.0.43 19:40, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creating articles

Could Somebody PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE create new articles for the prestige classes in this list. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nonagonal Spider (talk • contribs) .

Many articles already exist but are no linked, unluckily. -- ReyBrujo 02:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree, but who knows about these classes? There are sure alot of them, eh? Does anyone have these books? And alos, ere you going to ibclude stats for them, or would that violate copyrite? And please, please do the Libris Mortis classes first. The mysterious stranger. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.89.254.158 (talk • contribs) .

I have the Draconomicon, the War of the Lance sourcebook, and the Dragonlance Campaign Setting, so I can verify the classes that were introduced there. We won't be including stats as that may be copyright violation, and for sure Wikipedia is not an instruction manual. -- ReyBrujo 15:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Disagree with 64.89.254.158. If any subset of these should be done first it should be the ones from the core rules. The ones in the DMG should be covered first before fleshing out the ones from expansions and sourcebooks. Canonblack 23:16, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm working on the ones from Master of the Wild and linking them back. Most of the ones from the core rule book have been done already. I may see if any need filling in, but since I have the 3.0 and not the 3.5 book I'm a little reluctant to do so. Morgrim 09:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
I partially retract my previous statment, it appears that the articles I was thinking of have either been moved or deleted- most likely the later due to copyright restrictions. I'll do my best to replace them, I just ask that others make sure they apply for 3.5. That, or I borrow a friend's book for the weekend. Morgrim 09:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

The Draconomicon and the Dragonlance Campaign Setting -- 3.0 or 3.5?

Also disagree. Not all of these deserve articles- The DMG classes, and those slightly more 'classic' classes deserve them, but not just minor ones that have been placed in a book at some point to flesh it out. Oh, and perhaps we should deal with the base classes first? Would that not be a better idea? On the opther hand, I have most of these books, and would be willing to write articles for most of them. Drop me a line with any specific requests. J Milburn 09:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmmmm... The WotC list that is linked to at the bottom of the page could prove useful. Perhaps any class that exists in more than two books, or at, least, is features heavily in at least one book other than the one that it was originally published in, deserves an article? J Milburn 09:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Just a note, some discussion about mass merging a lot of D&D class articles is currently been carried out at here and at here --`/aksha 10:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redlink Philosophy

Many of these classes are never going to have an article; they simply cannot, there is nothing written about them other than their rules, and we cannot include that information without violating copyright. Should we continue to leave this list as a redlink farm, or de-wikify the obviously hopeless cases? Serpent's Choice 10:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Redlink Plan

I have de-redlinked most of the prestige classes for the moment. There is no plausible way that most of these classes can have their own article without violating WP:WAF or producing copy violations. However, a great many of these classes can and should be linked ... to broader topics. Classes for dedicated followers of specific deities should be linked to that deity's article and discussed there. Classes associated with an organization or campaign setting area that has its own article should be linked to that article. Likewise, classes for specific race (especially in the case of monstrous races) should link to and be discussed at that race's article. The end result of this is broader, more comprehensive, more easily referenced articles across the board, and makes this page serve as a far more useful navigation tool.

That said, the process will be slow. I'm doing the raw updating of the list tonight as best I can. I'll leave until later (you can help!) the process of building the article web, ensuring prestige classes are mentioned at their target article, and then wikilinking there. Serpent's Choice 08:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

It does sound like a good idea, but there's one problem. If you link a class associated with a specific race to that race's article, you really should make sure that class is actually discussed on that race's article. Because someone clicking on the name of a certain prestige class without knowing anything about it, and ending up at a race article that doesn't mention it....it'll be very confusing for them. --`/aksha 09:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Exactly. That's why none of the PrCs that don't currently have their own standalone article (without commentary regarding the quality of some of those articles) link anywhere at all. Adding the appropriately-targeted links before adding the content at the articles will create no end of confusion, so I've made certain that this will happen slowly. I think the end result will be worth it, though! Serpent's Choice 10:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  • I think that most of these presclasses cannot have their own articles, and the best solution is to add two or three lines of descriptive text to each entry in this list. Take a look at e.g. List_of_recurring_characters_from_The_Simpsons and you'll see how enlightening a list can become. >Radiant< 16:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Player's Guide to Faerûn fault

In Player's Guide to Faerûn list of Prestige Classes there are not wrote every classes. Player's Guide to Faerûn also include Appendix where we can find prestige classes as Martyred Champion of Ilmater, Maiden of Pain, Slime Lord, Yathrinshee, Harper Paragon, Celebrant of Sharess, and Black Blood Hunter. Please: write them in. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.190.68.22 (talk) 18:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Dragon Magazine prestige classes

I think there should be a comprehensive list of the Dragon Magazine classes. --76.179.81.127 19:46, 22 May 2007 (UTC) Should there be one?

Probably, but that would include at least 7 Thrall classes(Demogorgon, Zuggtmoy, Malcanthet, Kostchtchie, Baphomet, Fraz'Urb'Lu, and Pazuzu) from the Demonomicon of Iggwilv series, and quite a few others. 202.156.14.10 04:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PRCs from articles on the official site.

How should these be handled? Some are campaign-specific, others are "web enhancements" that supplement a book. Should there just be an "Online content" section to handle them? Kokushishin 14:14, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Sure, an online content section seems appropriate. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Races of Faerun

I noticed that Races of Faerun is missing. so I'm going to add it into the article after this. 202.156.14.10 04:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need help Demonologist

May someone help with imroving of Demonologist article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.115.54.185 (talk) 10:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)