Talk:List of post-rock bands
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[edit] Boards Of Canada
Boards Of Canada dont belong here either, the way they use instruments, compose and their sound is not what would be called post-rock. They are better placed in a list of ambient or electronic groups. -Itmplyurvyld
[edit] American Analog Set
I think most will agree that the American Analog Set definitely does not belong on this list. I removed them. -keremm
Check out "post rock" at Allmusic. Since the group's style is defined as ambient-space rock, the listing is valid... Folajimi 11:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
All Music does not specifically list them as post-rock though. They just happen to share some of the same arbitrary adjectives with the genre. Moreover, they don't sound much like any of the bands that AMG specifically lists as post-rock. Keremm 18:20, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tommy Guerrero
By what strange definition of post rock is Tommy Guerrero included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.47.148 (talk • contribs)
- Well, don't just stand there — do something! ;) --Folajimi 16:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Raison d'être
Now that I think of it, what is the purpose of this list? After all, the post-rock groups category seems to be more comprehensive, and is perhaps a more prudent way to raise the issues which have been discussed here.
In other words, the concerns raised here would be better addressed on the talk page of the subjects in question. --Folajimi 14:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Country
Just something minor. Should we keep the locations as countries only? Or should cities/states or provinces be included as well? I personally prefer simply listing the countries, for more details people can view the specific Wiki article. Right now with all the specific city/state/province the page is getting quite messy to view. Specificity should not be the purpose of this post rock list. 24.87.7.121 02:07, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Some British bands are given a UK flag, some an English or Scottish one depending on where they are from (see e.g. Stereolab, Mogwai). This is inconsistent and confusing. Surely if the usual criterion is a state as in international entity, that's the UK for any band from any part of the UK, and the different national flags should not be used. 86.0.169.202 05:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] RE: Raison d'être
The post rock groups page only incudes bands that have a Wiki page. Bands that do not have a Wiki page are not listed in Post Rock Groups, but are in List of Post Rock Bands. The List of Post Rock Bands page might raise awareness which might lead to future Wiki article creations. 24.87.7.121 02:07, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Is Bjork Post-Rock?
I dont think so, maybe her music is related to, but I have no reasons for include Bjork in this genre.
The Bjork´s wiki page, says about Genres: Pop, Trip-Hop, Rock, Vocal jazz, Ambient, Electronica, Dance, Alternative.
What do u think?
[edit] Removal of red-linked artists
As per Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/MUSTARD#Lists, unless there are any qualms with it, I'm going to remove the artists from the list who don't have a page. As it exists now, it's entirely useless. – moonty (talk) (contribs) 22:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, why not, and don't forget the link spam (artists with only an external link). On another note, if all bands with articles are added to Category:Post-rock groups, this list would be superfluous and could be deleted. Punkmorten 00:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] post metal bands
IMHO we should toggle post metal bands (i.e. Isis), since this is a list of post rock bands and there is also a list for post metal bands. Connacht 17:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Additions/Deletions
Any reason in particular that notable post-rock bands such as September Malevolance and Up-C, Down-C, etc have been removed, yet we have straight metal/metalcore bands such as "I" and "Inner Surge"??
It seems the list was edited to remove anything without a Wiki article, yet not edited to reflect true post-rock bands nor notability (for example "Toe" redirects to the body part and the disambiguation points to two post-rock bands named Toe of which neither have wiki articles).
Maybe we should not worry so much about having a wiki article, and worry more about what are actual post-rock bands. IMO stick to Post-Rock/Post-Metal and maybe Math Rock bands. Straying into Experimental, Stoner, Metal bands seems a bit excessive. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.122.125.226 (talk) 17:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC).
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- As per Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/MUSTARD#Lists, unless there are any qualms with it, I'm going to remove the artists from the list who don't have a page. As it exists now, it's entirely useless. – moonty (talk) (contribs) 22:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- We must worry about whether bands have an article by our own guidelines. If a band is notable and doesn't have an article, perhaps starting one should be your major concern. I do agree that the list has problems (your "Toe") example is good as well as having bands that are definitely not post-rock on the list, and those should be cleaned up. But we shouldn't go adding bands that don't have articles.
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- As someone who has deleted a lot of links from this article, echoing Moonty's sentiment, and adding that most of the links I removed were myspace and website links. To avoid this, and several other articles such as this, becoming a breeding ground for spam, these removals are necessary and should be routine. If a band is a notable example of a recognised, notable genre it follows that they should have an article on Wikipedia. If not, well, sorry, they probably are not notable when set against the policies and guidelines of WP:MUSIC. That's as simple as it can get. See also WP:EL and WP:SPAM. Bubba hotep 20:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
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- Fair enough. I'm not much of a wiki contributor and I would not know how to go about writing a new article, but I do know that an allmusic link is good enough for notability. At least, I think this is correct. If that's true, there is a link for Up-C Down-C... if someone would like to create an article:
- http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=UPC|DOWNC&sql=11:kzfoxqudldje~T0
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- Both Up-C Down-C... and September Malevolence are listed at discogs.com and a part of a significant post-rock best of list at decoymusic.com
- http://www.decoymusic.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6772
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- Perhaps I will go through and compile a list of the bands that don't exactly fit the genre as well. Thanks 65.122.125.226
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An All Music Guide link by itself is not enough to guarantee notability – not as far as Wikipedia is concerned anyway. The exact guidelines are at WP:MUSIC, as stated. There is a good chance that being on AMG will mean that other independent, multiple, non-trivial sources for the band are available which would fit in nicely, but that isn't always the case. I have no opinion on whether the bands that do have articles which are included on this list, should be on the list or not. I abstain from genre-wars as a rule, and that wasn't what brought me here in the first place (to this list, that is). It sounds like you have more than a passing interest in music in general (as do I), so why not register and get creative – once you start, you'll find you can't stop – as long as the material is within the inclusion criteria. :) Bubba hotep 09:14, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Anekdoten is not post-rock in any way, shape, or form.
There are way too many stretches in this list. A metal/drone/whatever guy should come through and remove anything that isn't post-rock. Unfortunately I personally don't know enough about metal to know what bands really may be post-rock (Isis, Pelican for example) and what is not, but there are a ton of highly suspicious bands in this list. Cleanup definitely required. 65.122.125.226 19:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Active/Non-Active Bands
Should we differentiate those bands on the list which are no longer active? Perhaps marking them with an asterisk or placing a "birth year" and "death year" for each band? Windmillninja 20:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] a-ha
I have added the band a-ha as a post-rock band due to their artice stating that one of the subgenres is post-rock. Please remove the band if you feel that it is not appropriate to add this band to the list. ThisIsAOneWaySystem 13:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Adding bands to this list
If you have a notable band that belongs on this list, create a proper article for your band, THEN add your band to this list. Bands without articles WILL be deleted. 67.48.110.106 (talk) 10:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Reorganization/Cleanup
This article does not comply with WP:FLAG. A proposed change for this page in the discussion page there is to remove the flag icons but list the bands by country instead of using arbitrary alphabetical sections. This would make country of origin much easier to identify than using flag icons, it would also allow bands from the United Kingdom to be identified using England/Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland subsections.--Boffob (talk) 14:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
