Talk:List of personages of the Three Kingdoms

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[edit] The Three Kingdoms of the Han Dynasty

For the kingdoms of Wei and Shu, Liu Bei and Cao Cao have created two kingdoms with the aid of talented people such as Zhuge Liang and Guo Jia. Guo Jia was the strategist and advisor of Cao Cao during his battles with Yuan Shao and Lu Bu.

At the time of Cao Cao's rise to power, Liu Bei was wandering the lands with no kingdom nor province to call his own. Cao Cao soon becomes the Prime Minster after he manages to secures many positions within the Imperial Courts. Although many people see Cao Cao like a tyrant such as Dong Zhuo, he was only doing what he can to ensure that justice (If you wish to say that) will be done. He just went about it differently and that is what makes him not even close to being a tyrant.

Liu Bei, on the other hand, had no land (as we know) and spent his days traveling throughout the land. Liu Bei, at the time, served two of Cao Cao's most powerful adversaries (Lu Bu and Yuan Shao). Although Liu Bei manage to leave much of a bad reputation by fleeing from each of these warlords, he did what he felt was needed to stay alive; however, even though he served under Cao Cao, it was clear to Liu Bei that the Hero of Chaos would one day discover his ambition to restore to the Han to its former power. One of the largest advantages that I believe Liu Bei could've had was if his brother Zhang Fei did not steal the horse from Lu Bu. If Lu Bu had joined Liu Bei, things could've been differently but Lu Bu was far too narrow minded.

[edit] The Wu Kingdom of the Han

Although the Sun family did not get involved in the battles that went on between Liu Bei and Cao Cao, they are still just as strong as the other kingdoms.

With the death of Sun Jian, Sun Ce went on to continue his father's work. After reuniting with his childhood friend Zhou Yu, the territories of Wu not only became a heated battled, but many talented officers and people joined Sun Ce's army to help him during his conquest (Such as Taishi Ci, Zhang Zhao, Zhang Hong, Jiang Qin, Zhou Tai, etc). The only sad thing was he later died after receiving wounds from hunting and killing Yi Ji. The most interesting insight about the Kingdom of Wu is how they came into power of their own. Most of the time they tried not to get into any battles. The other odd fact is that Wu did not have any top five generals in their army. More importantly, the best insight out of Wu is how they maintain peaceful watch and only went to war when they felt now was the time.

Even though the novel itself focuses on Liu Bei and Cao Cao's rise to power, you still got to give Wu and the generals credit for only wanting to see their land flourish and be safe for future generations. More or less, The kingdom of Wu from my point of view was only trying to keep out of the wars. As for the top five generals, I believe they would be Zhou Yu, Lu Xun, Zhou Tai, Gan Ning, and Huang Gai. --Zhang Liao 02:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

You know what, looking at the different types of generals, advisors, civilians, strategists, and political advisor on these different clans is very grand. TO those who managed to fix this page and make it look like this, nice job. You guys narrowed it down to the very last individuals, big or small/ popular or not, of all the forces of the Han Era and Three Kingdom Era. Well Done.--Zhang Liao 05:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two lists combined into one

According to a Chinese-speaking colleague of mine, this list combines characters from Records of the Three Kingdoms (factual) and Romance of the Three Kingdoms (fiction). In the Chinese Wikipedia, these lists are separate, being zh:三國志人物列表 and zh:三国演义人物列表, respectively. Uncle G 12:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] accurecy

how do i know that this article is reliable? i saw meng huo under shu, so how do i know if there arent other mistakes? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.166.104.26 (talk) 05:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC).

Strictly speaking, Meng Huo is under Shu since he eventually submitted. _dk 11:23, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Classification

I have classified the characters under whom and which kindom they had previously and eventually served. For example, Zhang He served Yuan Shao before, but he later served Wei. Hence, I decided to classify him under both 'Yuan Shao and his subjects' and 'State of Wei'. However, I am still unsure which of these characters are real or fictional and maybe need some help on this. Perhaps a section listing fictional characters of the Three Kingdoms can be created. As for the brief descriptions of the characters beside their names, I have decided to remove them as they do not really serve any purpose. I hope that the former editor who added these descriptions can understand why I removed them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lonelydarksky (talk • contribs) 13:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Traditional vs. Simplified Characters?

Shouldn't the characters listed by each name in the article be in Traditional Chinese rather than Simplified? Traditional is used in the individual articles for each character and Simplified didn't come into existence until the People's Republic of China created it in the last century. SoroSuub1 03:00, 15 April 2007 (UTC)