Talk:List of people of Korean descent

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What the.. is there any reason the director Shim Hyung-Rae is not listed under the section of film-maker? Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.184.243 (talk) 23:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Please refer to this page for the romanization of Korean names. It's not the ultimate rule, but something we should discuss about. Xaos



If King Sejong should be written in a different way, please correct. Thanks.

He is usually called Sejong Daewang, meaning King Sejong the Great among Koreans. But I think personally King Sejong is also acceptable. --Xaos

Moved to King Sejong the Great of Joseon. --Sewing 21:22, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)

this list & the sublists are a mess. the sub-lists need to be coordinated with this list, named consistently, more fully populated, deleted, and/or merged into this list. ultimately, i don't know if the work would be worth it though, because categories are probably better for this job. imho. Appleby 21:52, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List title/content

If you have a "List of Koreans", then the people on it must be Korean. It's original research to include any definition/concept of what you think makes a person Korean, as it is to include people who have not been described as "Korean" in a good source ("Korean-American", etc. maybe). Therefore I'm changing the definition to fit the title, and working on removing any Americans who no one but Wikipedia has described as being just "Korean". This is being done with similar lists as well. Mad Jack O'Lantern 19:33, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

as you can see from Korean people, "Korean" is not limited to the concept of legal citizenship status. legal citizenship status is a specific, narrow definition; the broader definition is widely used in reference works, scholarly journals, and media. many people identify themselves as "irish" or "italian" even if they have u.s. citizenship, & this is not incorrect, unless they are filling out immigration forms. Appleby 20:22, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, if you can find a reference from a good source to any of the people I deleted as being referred to as just "Korean" (as opposed to "Korean-American", etc.) then they should go in. That's the only way to strictly follow Wikipedia's policies Mad Jack O'Lantern 20:23, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

please see Korean people, as well as any dictionary or reference work; the term "Korean" is not limited to citizenship status, & the introduction makes this clear; researching each individual's immigration status would be original research. Appleby 20:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

A. You can't source a Wikipedia article with another Wikipedia article. and B. if you want to include the people I deleted, please find an explicit source that describes them as "Korean". That's the only way we can put people on a "List of Foos", if they've been described by a good source as being exactly that which the list title says they are. I'm not going to revert you right now because I don't want to edge close to the 3rr rule, but I will revert you tomorrow if you can't present sources for any of the people or this definiton. Mad Jack O'Lantern 20:30, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

please chill out. you are confusing a narrow legal definition with common, even scholarly use of the same term. "korean" on this page is used in the common sense, & this is even spelled out in the introduction (until you tried to delete it). many people on this list live outside of korea & at least a few i know have non-korean citizenship. but why do you think readers would look at a list like this? to research people's legal immigration status? or do you think they may be interested in korea, and that these noted people are of korean descent? do you think these readers would be helped by including or excluding noted people of korean ethnicity when they come to a list called "list of koreans"? e.g., chang describes herself as "korean girl" her label calls her "korean violinist"Appleby 21:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, that's a good source for Chang. Now we need a source for Wie. If you want to keep the introduction you would have to find a reliable source that defines "Korean" in that way. Mad Jack O'Lantern 21:13, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


I'm pretty convinced that a list of Korens should be a little longer. A list of people of Korean descent sounds even more epic. Perhaps the word prominent or famous should be included?