Talk:List of past EastEnders characters

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[edit] Adding characters

If you add any characters that I missed off when I initially made this page, could you please also add them to List of EastEnders Cast Members in the "Past" section. Thanks Trampikey 14:05, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cast members, not characters

As this is a list of cast members, we should include actors who have played characters that have been re-cast, such as Danniella Westbrook and David Scarboro. --AnemoneProjectors (talk) 11:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

See my sandbox, I'm working on turning it around to be characters. Trampikey 16:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major/minor characters

Would it be an idea to bold the characters who played a significant part in the series. There's a difference between Whoever Pappas and Grant Mitchell, for instance. HornetMike 16:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Richard Beale

Does anyone know why this actor is being redirected to the main EastEnders page? he played the character Jackie stone in 1990 Gungadin 17:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Probably due to this edit -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 19:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
lol, i'm gonna make it into a proper actor page and remove the redirect.Gungadin 21:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Pappas

Did he not appear on screen? Also what happened to the Polish woman who jumped on the laundry? — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 21:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Im not sure if he appeared onscreen, I didnt pay much attention to the Pappas family, but he's redirecting to Helen Pappas for some reason. The polish woman seems to have quit, never to be seen from again no doubt.Gungadin 22:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I noticed Trampikey redirect Peter Pappas saying his last name was not confirmed. The Polish woman doesn't appear on this list despite being a past character. She vanished from the "soon to join" list and never appeared here. — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 12:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ???

I wanted to ask about this list. Is it still a rule that people can't be added to this list unless we know their character's surname? Because now that we dont have a cat for EE actors, I think we should include as many actors/characters on the list as possible to make it comprehensive. They dont all have to have an article of course, but there are several characters who only have one name, but appeared for quite a long time. Such as Karen the Jazz singer, Sam's boyfriend Clive, Rich and Clem - Shelley's friends from 1993 and Stella (Ashraf's mistress) and Hazel who were regular characters for a year. I have put some of them on before but they seem to have been removed because they dont have surnames.Gungadin 22:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

There's no rule or we'd have discussed it and it would be here somewhere. They should be listed, as others with no last name are. — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 12:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I was told about it in a conversation ages ago, that ones without last names arent wanted etc.here's the conversation. By the way, welcome back AP.Gungadin 13:54, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Well that's was something Trampikey decided on his own, there was no community discussion. Obviously characters without articles should be listed, as should characters with no last name. — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 14:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I usually only add characters with confirmed last names, but others can be added - I removed Peter because his last name was not pappas, and we don't know who played him, so I thought he was not notable.. -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 18:43, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
To expand on my last reply, I think that characters without a last name should only be added if they played a significant role in the series- like the ones Gungadin mentioned above - we don't want to be listing 20 different characters called John - its unrealistic to thin kthat we could have so many character pages... so to summarise, I think characters with no last nam should only be listed if an adequate article can be written about them... like Lydia, Sid, Clint or Ray... -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 19:28, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I definitely dont think that all minor characters should have their own page, but I dont see the problem in having them just on this list. The reason being that I sometimes refer to the list when I want to know which actor played who, so others must do it too. Obviously un-named people and one liner extras dont have to be bothered with, but characters who appear across several episodes should.

I also agree that character pages should only be written if we have adequate content for them, but that doesnt just apply to characters with no surnames. We have a lot of very minor characters that have their own pages such as various members of the Pappas family and Kate Chole, who only appeared in one episode and didn't speak. It doesnt make sense that this character was given her own page merely because she has a surname. She wouldnt even be on the list if we only knew her first name because she was so minor

That's not to say I dont appreciate having their character info on here, but I think we should reconsider making a list for these very minor characters. We could possibly do a minor character list by decade or year and have several articles. I know you have been opposed to this in the past Trampikey, but if the list only contained the very very minor characters would you still have a problem? I think it is just a matter of time before this project come under scrutiny from policy pushers, and this could lead to numerous articles being tagged for deletion because they fail notability (Wikipedia:Notability (fiction)#Fiction in Wikipedia). It would be a shame to lose all the information that has been included in them. Gungadin 21:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Characters don't need articles to be listed. We don't even have to have red links for them. — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 21:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
If they ever are deleted, then a list can be made, but for now it's fine as it is... I agree with the point about characters who appeared for ages, like Stella, Clem, Lydia etc. - they should have articles. (Sorry for limited replies, btw, I'm on a limited access at the moment as I'm not at home!) -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 11:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ugh

I don't mean to moan but of what significance are Kevin and the other girl played by Amanda Holden? And do we have to start putting Misters and Missuses on here? -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 21:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes because it is a list, so it doesnt matter if they are credited as Mr and Mrs blah! Anyway Mr Opopadoppy is an iconic EE minor, why shouldnt he be included? you seem to have a phobia about characters with only one name being on here, no one else seems to be bothered as per the conversation above. Carmen was a market seller, in it for several weeks, and Kevin was in it for two years. I think they are slightly more notable than characters like Adam Childe. Can you tell me what makes Adam Childe and Al, more important than the characters I just included? Gungadin 22:23, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I just asked about Carmen and Kevin cos I don't know who they are... I don't care about people with first names - but a list full of Misters and Missuses will just end up looking messy like Walford Web... -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 22:27, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I still dont get why you think the words Mr and Mrs are messy. It's formal, but not messy and that's what they are credited as, so if it's good enough for EastEnders then it should be good enough for this list. Some that are only credited as Mr or Mrs play a big part in a storyline anyway, such as Mr Conroy or Mrs Andreos, who was in it for a long period of time. I hadnt intended on adding every Mr and Mrs I came across, but really there is no good reason why they shouldnt be on this list, even if they never get added to any of the minor articles. Not all of them have to be red linked if your prefer, or if you are really against it then I dont mind making a list of supporting characters, like Brookside has done.Gungadin 22:58, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I just don't think that if we're not supposed to have Dr., Rev., PC, DS etc. in our article titles that we should start having Mr. and Mrs... -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 10:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

But you still had an issue with including characters credited as Mr and Mrs even when you were making articles beginning with Dr and Rev. So that cant be your main reason for objecting to their inclusion. You just dont want it because you dont like it, but none of us have the right to cherry pick which cast should be credited based on our personal preferences. Also you have Catherine Tate as Lauren Cooper on the list, so I dont really see how you can be so exclusionary to characters that actually did appear.

There's nothing wrong with them being on the list and no one else has a right to complain or tell us off. They were credited as Mr and Mrs, they appeared in the serial, so we're not breaking any rules by putting them on this list.Gungadin 11:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. Legg

Per my recent edit (Left->Last appeared), Dr. Legg, it turns out, isn't on the page at all... :-) Stephenb (Talk) 10:59, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Lol, I think "Last appeared" is better, as a bulk of the characters on there are minor, so didn't leave, they just appeared that year. Thanks for changing it. -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 11:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Returning characters

To have them listed here as their last appearance is wrong, as because we know they are returning, they haven't actually made their last appearance yet, their last appearance is yet to come. They are listed under "Returning characters" on the current list. -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 10:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roger Griffiths

Hi, I recently created the article for Roger Griffiths. His IMDB states his having a recurring role as D.I. Riddick. I haven't seen that character anywhere on the list here; I was wondering if this information from the IMDB was accurate, and if yes, if someone more familiar with the topic could plug him in where applicable in the timeline? (I have no familiarity with EastEnders at all; I created the article because I've done some work with Chef!). Thanks so much if anyone can help me out. Just trying to get some wikilinking for the article. matt91486 (talk) 23:26, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

His character was brought in to investigate Den Watts' murder in 2005. He arrested Chrisse and Sam. That's him in the background of this image Image:Sharon Rickman LD.EastEnders.jpg. I think he may have also had something to do with Paul Trueman and Andy Hunter in 2004. So you can add him to 2005 section if you like, and he can possibly be added to the List of minor EastEnders characters (2004).Gungadin♦ 17:36, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I've added him here but not to the list of minors. anemone│projectors 18:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)