Talk:List of ongoing conflicts

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Contents 1 War in Afghanistan?? 2 Organization of conflicts 3 Kivu conflict (Congo) is still ongoing! 4 Bogus information about Chechnya 5 WHAT ABOUT BEIRUT? 6 Map update needed for Myanmar and Kivu 7 Nagorno-Karabakh 8 Cleanup tag 9 Key colors don't match/Mislinking

[edit] War in Afghanistan??

I see stuff about the civil war, but apparently somebody forgot about the 2001 war in Afghanistan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.27.247 (talk) 14:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Organization of conflicts

This table is flooding over with conflicts of lesser and lesser extent. Yet, I don't think there should be a removal of some of them from the article, since they are still notable. Rather, I think there should be an organization of the conflicts, in order to highlight the most important ones. I suggest that they be organized as:

• Major wars, by the GlobalSecurity.org definition
• Other conflicts

Any other organization-suggestions? Mikael Häggström (talk) 16:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

There, I added the major wars as found in worldstatesmen.org, but there sure are other ones on the long list which also fill the criteria. Mikael Häggström (talk) 19:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking of putting an {{expand}} below the list of major wars, but I'm afraid it might spur somebody to start another one. Mikael Häggström (talk) 18:38, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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I have my doubts that the War in Afghanistan reaches 1,000 deaths a year, unlike the waziristan war. Also, Saudi-Arabia insurgency and the one in Algeria are relatively small conflicts, best would be to just colour the areas where these insurgency / bombings take place, since most of these countries consists of huge deserts. - PietervHuis (talk) 23:10, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

You may, if you wish, switch places for the Afghanistan and Waziristan conflicts if you think so. I agree it would be better to specify where in Saudi-Arabia and Algeria there is conflict. If you know what areas are of concern you may update it, or propose the changes on the talk-page for the image. Mikael Häggström (talk) 16:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Good work, the map looks really great (not only because it's always nice to see more grey areas on it).

[edit] Kivu conflict (Congo) is still ongoing!

Government and rebel forces have recently again started battleing each other, aid workers had to flee certain areas becouse of the renewed violence. [1], it was also in the Belgian news recently (article in dutch): [2].

Buzzy78 (talk) 09:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I've updated the article and the lists to account for continued fighting. -- Beland (talk) 12:04, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bogus information about Chechnya

Please stop inserting dubious/bogus figures for Chechnya. The link you just restored is broken, and has been broken since it was removed by another user over a week ago. The domain is for sale by lycos, it's not coming back. Also stop changing the number from 25,000 to 30,000. The link says "Estimates put the number of killed since 1999 during the second Chechen conflict at up to 25,000." Krawndawg (talk) 16:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't surprise me that someone like you considers the estimation by the Russian-Chechen Friendship Society "bogus information". The link is down yes, but that doesn't mean the information can't be used anymore. The person who removed it and someone else already found a cache of the page. There's also others sources that give about the same estimation [3]. As for the AI source, they indeed say 25,000 are killed, but if you read down they state another 5,000 have gone missing. - PietervHuis (talk) 01:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Missing doesn't mean killed. That's misleading. LokiiT (talk) 00:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

We have an entire article on this subject, Casualties of the Second Chechen War. The figures given here should be the same as the intro to that article (which currently doesn't have any). -- Beland (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WHAT ABOUT BEIRUT?

(The above header was added unsigned by 83.42.89.160.)

I was also wondering if it would need to be added, but the violence seems to have abated, at least for now. -- Beland (talk) 01:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Map update needed for Myanmar and Kivu

Internal conflict in Burma is on the list and is ongoing, but no part of Burma is shaded red. -- Beland (talk) 17:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Kivu conflict also needs to be added to this map; that article has a national map showing the region in question. -- Beland (talk) 12:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nagorno-Karabakh

It looks like Nagorno-Karabakh is still on the map, but this conflict ended in 1994, and it's not on the list here. -- Beland (talk) 18:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• Or maybe it should be added to the list and the history article updated? I wrote earlier: "Apparently there is still fighting, albeit at a low level. This should probably be noted here and in various articles. No End in Sight to Fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh by Ivan Watson/National Public Radio. Weekend Edition Sunday, April 23, 2006." -- Beland (talk) 18:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup tag

I'm not sure why the "cleanup" tag is still justified, so I removed it. If anyone has any specific items, feel free to mention them here and re-add it. The only thing I see that needs much work is finding references for various conflicts, and perhaps filling in unknowns. But there are citation needed tags already added. If you ask me, the casualty numbers should be the same as the supporting article, and should defer references there. -- Beland (talk) 19:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Key colors don't match/Mislinking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2008-05_ongoing_conflicts.png The highlighted regions on the map are black and red, but the key uses yellow and red. The version displayed on the "list of ongoing conflicts" article page is consistent. 76.178.247.180 (talk) 04:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)