Talk:List of music prodigies

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This is actually a longer list then the one at the chess prodigy article. Also by separating it out it allows for them to be placed in genres.(Although if it's decided to move the list part of "chess prodigy" to the main list of child prodigies I'll likely move this back)--T. Anthony 04:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm not that sure adding Aliyah is correct. The others seem to fit. Although his page is uninformative Adan Sanchez was apparently quite talented even before his father died at 8. Brenda Lee was apparently seen as a bit prodigious in country music.(I think it would be snobbish to refuse to count kinds of music like country or even rap) Stacie Orrico is maybe borderline. Although the main problem with her is I had to add a category. I might just put her in a different category, if she fits, and drop the religious music one.--T. Anthony 07:06, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

I cut out a few because prodigy is apparently to be defined by a very strict standard to avoid abuse of the term. There's a bit of this I find to be an overreaction, but I think this had few remaining "over 12" names anyway. I'm not removing clean up just yet as I'm uncertain the genres are named right.--T. Anthony 09:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Inclusion of Henry Purcell 2 Music 3 Voice 4 Mozart 5 Cleanup tag 6 Natan Brand

[edit] Inclusion of Henry Purcell

According to a Wikipedia Article, Henry Purcell's first musical work was written when he was around 10-11, and rumours have suggested earlier (the article also explain him writing a piece at nine).

That being said, should Henry Purcell be added for inclusion in the listing? -DannyDaWriter 05:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd say yes. I'm comparatively flexible on who's a prodigy though. I'm willing to count people who didn't go to college until age 14 and Charlotte Church in the case of this list. That said I'm a bit stricter with music prodigies than other kind as there really are enough people who start quite young to make a decent list. Still the list already has people who didn't compose until age 11 and I think I'd accept a musician who started as old as 12 in certain cases.--T. Anthony 14:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I decided to put Charlotte Church back. The person who removed her has done no other edits at Wikipedia. I grant that she's tabloid fodder or perhaps even not a good person for all I know, but she fits the definition and sources back her up as fitting.--T. Anthony 00:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Music

I erased Jimmy Page. Just because he started playing at 9, does not mean he was as good as any skilled adults before eleven. And Rock Music is such a simplistic form of guitar-playing at that. I started playing at 10, and I was nowhere near a prodigy. Just because someone started playing young and became famous does not mean in any way that they are a prodigy...

[edit] Voice

Do vocalists belong at all? Children are not physically developed enough to gain a complete mastery of this field; for example, it's common for a seven-year-old violinist to play the Mendelssohn, but it's physically impossible for practically any prepubescent to sing "Tosca." Many children who display talent in singing later give it up in favor of other musical activities after their voices break; often it's a crapshoot whether a voice will still be good after puberty. D SCH 04:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I took it out due to this objection, but I may have overreacted. Beverly Sills did continue into adulthood and is generally more known for her opera work in adulthood than her child star career on radio.--T. Anthony 21:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mozart

Why is Wolfgang Mozart not included in the list of piano prodigies? He is perhaps the most famous example of a musical child prodigy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.165.248.53 (talk) 07:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup tag

Is the cleanup tag needed? I tightened the intro sentences a little bit, but nothing in the article immediately stands out as needing cleanup. Please leave a note here to say what's needed, or feel free to remove the old cleanup template (which has been there since January 2006) if there's no longer a reason for it. --Reuben (talk) 18:33, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Yea, I agree. I clicked here, under articles needing clean-up, and was a bit confused as to what exactly needed clean-up, besides the fact that some obvious chronology is needed. (exempli gratia, "Frederic Chopin" right beside "Sandrine Erdely-Sayo.") --~~MusicalConnoisseur~~ Got Classical? 03:02, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Natan Brand

There is actually citation on its main page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzubiri (talk • contribs) 00:24, 10 March 2008 (UTC)