Talk:List of modern day tricksters
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[edit] "Non-referenced and poorly defined list" tag
This list originally developed within the trickster article. Like many in-article lists, it soon became problematic. Many stopping by the article added their favorite "trickster" and eventually the list began to dominate the article. It was discussed on the talk page and my proposed solution was to create a separate page for the list. I did that and someone (rightly) added the tag to it, suggesting the need for better definition. So I have added a reference, with some characteristics of tricksters. Hopefully the list may prove interesting and illuminating for some. However, I have no particular brief as to whether the list should live or die. If it remains, there should be some scrutiny as to whether the tricksters listed meet several of the six traits. I've removed the tag. See what you think. Sunray 07:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
- I've started going through the list, eliminating names that do not seem to meet the traits of a trickster (e.g., Mary Poppins, Danny Ocean). Several others seem doubtful, mostly cartoon figures like Daffy Duck, the Pink Panther, the Road Runner and Woody Woodpecker. All these characters engage in deception, but is there evidence of other trickster traits, such as shape-shifting? Thoughts? Sunray 16:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
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- The list has been seriously pruned. I used the traits listed and looked for sources. I've added some citations, particularly where there seemed to be some doubt. For example, I found no evidence for Roadrunner, but Wile E. Coyote is related to the Old Man Coyote trickster of Native American lore (and yes, his getting squashed by a boulder and then appearing in the next scene opening his latest package from the Acme Corporation qualifies as shape shifting. Sunray 16:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tyler Durden?
What about Tyler Durden/the Narrator in Fight Club? Got the dual personality/shape shifter thing, plays tricks, changes society etc.Zlama 06:09, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yup. Durden is ambiguous, a trick-player, situation-inverter, bricoleur... Good call. I would add him. Sunray 16:22, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
How about Hunter S. Thompson? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.228.0.36 (talk) 01:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] OMG, I've Killed Kenny!
Sorry... But I've tidied the list a little since it was getting a tad chaotic.. I've also taken the liberty of removing Kenny McCormick - as far as I can tell he doesn't meet any of the characteristics specified for a Trickster. He does have a resurrection pattern, certainly, but that's not given as a qualification - and he wouldn't seem to be significantly more Trickster than Kyle, Stan or Cartman by those specifications. - Shrivenzale (talk) 18:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
