Talk:List of minor Soul series characters
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The english voice actors for Heihachi and Spawn are stated as Victor Stone, but the page for this is a fictional character. Could someone verify these facts?
There should be articles about the unplayable characters. I'll create them.
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[edit] Future
In Heihachi Mishima section it says that the Tekken series is in the future of the Soul Calibur series. Can somebody prove this? Otherwise I'm deleting it within the week. MrDrak
Tekken= 21st Century or beyond. Soul Calibur= 16th Century. That's the only way I can see that as true. Wingedregent 01:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Heihachi's profile specifically mentions that he went back in time, so it is logical to say that it occurs in the future. BassxForte 06:39, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Inconsistency
Could anyone explain why characters important to the Soul Calibur canon (Cervantes, Cassandra, and Astaroth) redirect to one page with limited profiles, yet characters that aren't (Strife, Abelia, Lynette, etc.) have their own pages? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rsmith3813 (talk • contribs) 19:26, August 20, 2007 (UTC).
- I have just started merging today, so it is going to be a little bit before it is finished. TTN 19:29, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Another thing, how do you justify merging characters into this page, when they have enough notability to have their own page? BassxForte 19:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- See WP:FICT and WP:WAF. These lack any real, non-trivial real world information, so they cannot be declared notable by this site's standards. TTN 19:16, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I think it was better when they all had their own pages, since their bios (Cervantes, Astoroth, Voldo, Nightmare,etc.) span across 4-5 games, making their profiles larger as time goes on. The minor characters (Chronicles of the Sword Character, guest characters, and Bonus characters) should all get limited bios instead of the main ones.Wingedregent 01:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
TTN, you still fail to understand that the contents of the article don't require real-world notability to be deserving of an article. BassxForte 06:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- I am not even getting into this discussion with you. That is the general consensus of the site. If you don't like it, either get the way things work changed or just ignore fiction articles. TTN 15:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Stop merging the articles. Seriously, you're ruining them all. Don't give me that, "They're not notable," rubbish. They deserve to have their own articles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.215.199.234 (talk) 10:56, August 23, 2007 (UTC)
Fine by me, I don't discuss with people who can't be reasoned with in the first place. BassxForte 07:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
WTF is this? this merging is stupid, I much preferred when the characters that deserved profiles actually had them. If they're the main characters of a popular videogame, then why shouldn't they? --86.6.179.6 —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 14:23, August 25, 2007 (UTC).
General consensus? No, TTN, no it isn't. I wholeheartedly disagree with you on this matter. Literally thousands of other fictional characters possess bios throughout Wikipedia. Each article here was relevant and contained a large amount of information, making your actions unnecessary. Merging the articles is pointless, if not idiotic to the extremes. You have absolutely no right or valid reason to continue doing this. In fact, I’m asking anyone who can recall the immense mass of data that was collected within the articles to restore them to their original splendor as soon as possible so that we can deliver them from this sickening state. Kageryushin 22:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Kageryushin has a point. Merging pages like that is completely unnecessary. There really is no point for you to do that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.110.211.236 (talk) 23:25, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
I agree, Kageryushin. "Sickening" is a good word for this because of the amount of information that is being destroyed. I come here trying to find a character's background and there's barely any information, when previously there was lots of information said about each characters backstory, characteristics, and activities in each game. All of this was well worth a page, and still not in the realm of excessive. Here, one can barely learn anything, which defeats the point of the article. Also, this format doesn't make it easy to add information about the characters as future installments in the series are released. These are characters in a long-running and major franchise; I think they're notable enough to have their own page. In my opinion, I think the impact of the Soul Calibur series makes this kind of information worthwhile enough to qualify for the standards of WP:FICT. Also, (and I know this isn't a reason to flat-out ignore wikipedia's policies but i think it's important anyway) lots of people find character-specific articles helpful and practical, and to organize character information like this only makes things more difficult and uninformative. What you're doing isn't worth the effort because it doesn't help wikipedia or its users. One more thing, WP:WAF shouldn't have anything to do with merging; the problems in that domain are corrected by changing the style, not moving and compressing information. AlmightyDoctor 23:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Honestly, I came here looking for an entire page on Nightmare, what do I get? A paragraph! Honestly, whoever made this article, make the articles seperate pages again! -Mythmonster2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mythmonster2 (talk • contribs) 18:07, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
I did the same thing as the above poster! I wanted to read up on Nightmare and Zasalamel, but all I find is a paragraph of things I already knew. I wish the articles get returned to their original state, because this kinda sucks.Wingedregent 02:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Who keeps determining that pages about fictional characters and objects is not relevant enough for Wikipedia? It's the aspect I've most praised about Wikipedia since I joined, and I make every attempt to EXPAND these pages... Someone needs to stop being quite so self centered and cease thinking that only their types of articles are worthy... And of course, I'll help rebuild this page when it inevitably gets reverted. I love these characters. ShadowHare 04:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
This is the first time I see such unreasonable decisions here on Wikipedia. These are notable characters which deserve their own articles that were very informative. Especially Nightmare, who is considered by many to be the icon of the game. Major decisions such as these are usually decided by a vote (which I'm sure would've been in favor of keeping the articles) and not decided by TTN, who isn't even an admin here and who's talk page is full of people complaining about unexplained merges and deletes. —TigerK 69 04:28, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:39458121 nin soul 203b.jpg
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BetacommandBot 11:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Link (SC II).jpg
Image:Link (SC II).jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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[edit] What the!?
Does anyone know what's up with Darth Vader and Yoda being in here? I mean, this isn't serious, right?
Dante 10:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Totally serious, dude. SCIV will have freaking Yoda for X-Box and Vader for PS3. No word yet on bios or why their use of the force won't totally overpower them or why one hit from their lightsabers wouldn't kill an opponent. (or would it?) Sliferjam (talk) 12:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pictures
What happened to all the pictures of the characters? They get deleted? If they did then wikipedia is being a real bitch. It's not like they run out of room. Hobocrow (talk) 20:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Internet's like that nowadays. Everything is copyrighted and watermarked and protected by ubiguous laws (which don't really apply since Internet is universal, and not tied to any country's legislation). In reality, I don't think the game companies mind people using the pictures (it's kinda like free advertising, really), unless people claim they made the art. SamSandy (talk) 18:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Improving the article
I modified the article today quite a lot, but as anybody can see, there's still much to be done to make this something beyond a mere list of characters. I put own slots for the bonus characters in this page as well, since not all of them have an article of their own. The individual articles could always be merged with this one, but it would make this page helluva long, so I wouldn't recommend it. SamSandy (talk) 12:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
