Talk:List of metropolitan areas by population

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We really have to update this page! The german version may help here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_gr%C3%B6%C3%9Ften_St%C3%A4dte_der_Welt Example: Tehran current (official) metro. population:14.0 mio. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran --Englishazadipedia (talk) 21:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

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The US cities cheat so much in this table. How come New York City and Los Angeles have more than double the area of most cities here? In fact the city proper of a US city can only be considered a metro area of a city in Asia like Shanghai and Tokyo. There are so many surburbs in a US city proper. But in this table instead of restricting the areas included, US cities even included more areas than other parts of the world. That is so unfair. I don't think anyone who has been to both Shanghai and New York would consider that New York is larger.

Hy reader, do yourself a favor and don't belief this article. NYC has roughly 8Mio citizens ... to me it seams like the whole state New York and NOT New York CITY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.181.126.187 (talk) 16:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Delhi

The city and metropolitan population of Delhi is much more than stated in wikipedia and some baseless sources. Its municipal population is 18 million (2008) and metropolitan population well over 22 million[1] (around 25-28 million). The confusion over Delhi's population is because of 3 reasons :-

1. Delhi (city municipal region, area = 1483 sq. km) is one of the fastest growing cities in the world with compound annual growth rate of 4.2%. This means that by 2008 the Delhi population should have grown by 33.37% from 2001 census level (13,782,976) to reach over 18 million today. That is why in case of Delhi it is better to use current figures to avoid wrong results.

2. The suburbs of Delhi are growing at even faster rate than Delhi itself. They are almost doubling their population within a decade. Current populations of the suburbs are Gurgaon - 1.7 million, Ghaziabad - 2.2 million, Faridabad - 2.1 million, Noida-Greater Noida - 1.2 million. There are many other suburbs of Delhi as well. The contribution from suburbs puts the population of Delhi metropolitan area (Area - 3483 sq. km (Delhi-1483, Suburbs-2000)) more than 25 million, which is growing at astonishing pace.

3. Another reason of confusion is wrong method of calculating metropolitan population of Delhi, which was highlighted by Population Reference Bureau, Washington[2].

We should hope that Wikipedia should accept and embrace these changes soon and help people in breaking myths and misconceptions.

Thanks for that. However, as you are no doubt aware, it is impossible to standardize population estimates for urban areas. The article makes clear that this list is only from one source. No workable, unified solution has yet been proposed that would allow us to present standardized data. Indeed, averaging data from different sources for the purposes of presenting it on Wikipedia is disallowed under WP:OR. Hence while your figures are just as "valid" as the ones already in the table, and possibly more up-to-date, it is not practical to start changing the numbers for one city without entirely compromizing the list. Readers clicking through to the Delhi article will have a chance to look at more detailed population data and relevant external links from the article itself. Deiz talk 09:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] London

According to the article London Commuter Belt that is linked from this page, the population of Metropolitan London is 13,945,000, when this article states it as 12,875,000?!?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.206.217.10 (talk) 17:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

The Largest European Metropolitan areas page says its 13,063,441.

[edit] 'Metropolis' vs. 'City'

The introduction is great, but I think that switching the term 'city' for 'metropolis' would add some clarification: 'City' can be both/either a demographic and/or administrative description, whereas 'metropolis' is a purely demographic term that fits entirely the concept of the metropolitan area. Another weak point would be the introduction's stress on the definition of 'City': The concept of 'metropolitan area' is not this at all (the main role of one term is not to define another), rather it exists to determine areas of real urban growth - or metropoleis - thus its name. Cheers. THEPROMENADER 08:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)