Talk:List of largest lakes of Europe

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I just added Neusiedler See, however only 240 km² of it is in Western Europe, as it also crosses the border to Hungary. I felt however that it was necessary to write the full size of the lake. Jonmagne 16:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I decided to add some lakes from Scandinavia. I have not added them all, as I feel this list is getting out of hand. Who decides if a lake is among the largest lakes? I suggest limiting it to perhaps the 10 largest lakes of Western Europe. Also on geography, we need to be consequent throughout the Wikipedia. According to the article about Western Europe, the current understanding of it is as shown on the image to the left. There is another definition in the same article, which is defined by the United Nations. However, this article has not been true to that definition either, since according to the UN, the United Kingdom and Ireland are part of Northern Europe, and among others Italy is part of Southern Europe. The UN definition is however too narrow for an article like this, and is indeed only intended for statistical purposes. I noticed someone have earlier removed a lake from Austria on the grounds that the article is only about Western Europe... since when is Austria not in Western Europe?! It's clear that people are not looking at the facts when editing this article. I will continue to add lakes from Scandinavia if they are removed since Scandinavia is absolutely in Western Europe, unless someone can come up with really good evidence that keeping Scandinavia out of Western Europe is solidly founded on other articles on Wikipedia. Or we can use the UN definition and kick out Ireland, the UK, Spain, Italy and a few others ;)

Jonmagne 16:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I take it, that Scandinavia is not included in "Western Europe"? Because there are three lakes in e.g. Sweden that are larger than the largest one the current page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4nern http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4ttern http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4laren

I take it that at least Sweden is in Western Europe, which is why I have allowed myself to change the list, taking the information from the respective entires in the english and swedish editions of Wikipedia. Also, the Müritz is properly called just that, not Müritzsee, which is the name only for the southernmost part of the southern end of the Müritz itself.

KapHorn 21:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Also missing are at least two lakes in Norway: Mjösa, 368 m2 Femund (Femunden), 202 m2. FØ, Norway

Contents 1 Selected region 2 Page move and expansion & merge 3 Azerbaijan is not in Europe 4 Finnish lakes

[edit] Selected region

Why only the Western Europe instead of the whole continent? — JyriL ^talk 20:59, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

It is odd to use the old political West in a geographical list. I suggest that all lakes > 100 km² in Europe are included on this list. I don't think it is wise to use sub-regions such as western Europe because they're so unclear. After all, there are not that many large lakes in the Eastern Europe if you don't count Russia. — JyriL ^talk 00:25, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page move and expansion & merge

If nobody opposes, I'll combine this article with Largest Lakes in Europe (Western, Central & Eastern) and move the page to List of largest lakes of Europe and include lakes from the rest of Europe. Even if the size of the list doubles it still isn't very large. — JyriL ^talk 10:30, 29 August 2

Actually, there are not that many > 100 km² lakes (although this may be incomplete):

Name	Alternative names	Country	Size (km²)
Ladoga	Лáдожское Óзеро, Laatokka	Russia	17700
Onega	Onego, Онежское озеро, Ääninen, Äänisjärvi	Russia	9894
Kuybyshev	Kuybyshevskoye Reservoir, Ку́йбышевское водохрани́лище	Russia	6450
Rybinsk	Rybinskoye Reservoir, Ры́бинское водохрани́лище	Russia	4500
Peipus	Peipsi-Pihkva järv, Чудско-Псковское озеро, Peipussee	Estonia, Russia, Latvia, Belarus	3555
Tsimlyansk	Tsimlyanskoye Reservoir, Цимля́нское водохрани́лище	Russia	2702
Saratov	Саратовское водохрани́лище	Russia	1831
Gorky	Горьковское водохрани́лище	Russia	1591
Beloye	Белое озеро	Russia	1290
Vygozero	Выгозеро, Uikujärvi	Russia	1250
Topozero	Топозеро, Tuoppajärvi	Russia	986
Ilmen	Ильмень	Russia	982 (733–2090)
Segozero	Сегозеро, Seesjärvi	Russia	906
Imandra	Имандра, Imantero	Russia	876
Pyaozero	Пяозеро, Pääjärvi	Russia	659
Kovdozero	Ковдозеро	Russia	608
Mingachevir		Azerbaijan	605
Balaton		Hungary	592
Vozhe		Russia	416
Kubenskoye	Кубенское озеро	Russia	407
Sheksninskoye		Russia	380
Scutari	Skadar Lake, Skadarsko jezero, Скадарско језеро, Liqeni i Shkodrës	Albania, Montenegro	370–530
Ohrid	Охридско Езеро, Ohridsko Ezero, Liqeni i Ohrit	Albania, Macedonia	358
Lacha	Lache, Ла́ча, Ла́че	Russia	356
Manych-Gudilo	Маныч-Гудило	Russia	344
Ivankovo	Ivankovskoye Reservoir, Ива́ньковское водохрани́лище	Russia	327
Vodlozero	Водлозеро, Vodlajärvi	Russia	322
Umbozero	Умбозеро	Russia	313–422
Võrtsjärv	Wirzsee	Estonia, Latvia	270
Syamozero	Сямозеро, Säämäjärvi, Seämärvi	Russia	265–270
Middle Kuyto	Среднее Куйто, Keski-Kuittijärvi	Russia	257
Đerdap		Serbia	253
Uglich	Uglichskoye Reservoir, У́гличское водохрани́лище	Russia	249
Keret	Кереть, Kierettijärvi	Russia	223
Nyuk	Нюк, Nuokkijärvi	Russia	214–230
Seliger	Селигер	Russia	212
Lovozero	Ловозеро, Луяввьр, Luujäuˊrr, Lujávri, Luujärvi	Russia	200
Upper Kuyto	Верхнее Куйто, Ylä-Kuittijärvi	Russia	198
Prespa	Преспанското Езеро, Μεγάλη Πρέσπα, Liqeni i Prespës	Albania, Greece, Macedonia	190
Leksozero	Лексозеро	Russia	166
Étang de Berre	estanh de Bèrra, mar de Bèrra	France	155
Elton	Эльтон	Russia	150
Yalpug	Озеро Ялпуг	Ukraine	149
Lower Kuyto	Нижнее Куйто, Ala-Kuittijärvi	Russia	141
Tisza	Kisköre Reservoir, Tisza-tó, Kiskörei-víztározó	Hungary	127
Engozero	Энгозеро	Russia	122
Kolvitskoye	Колвицкое озеро	Russia	121
Baskunchak	Баскунчак	Russia	115
Śniardwy	der Spirdingsee	Poland	114
Mamry	Mauersee	Poland	104
Koronia	Λίμνη Κορώνεια	Greece	100
Lubāns	Lubanas	Latvia	25–100

[edit] Azerbaijan is not in Europe

I see that a lake (or rather a reservoir) in Azerbaijan has been added. This is not a European lake and belongs somewhere else. Antipoeten 03:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Depends how Europe is defined. Based on the map in the article the lake barely belongs within the borders of Europe.--— JyriL ^talk 22:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish lakes

I recommend someone to look at this list in Finnish. It includes some lakes that might be included in your list. http://personal.inet.fi/koti/kauko.huotari/jarvet.htm Antipoeten 03:32, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

For Finnish lakes I used data from the Finnish Environmental Institute homepage where all lakes in Finland larger than 10 km² are listed.--— JyriL ^talk 22:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)