Talk:List of lakes in Serbia
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[edit] Cyrillic, references
Paja, I know you would think that I'm a hater of Cyrillic, which I'm decidedly not. The principal reasons why I removed Cyrillic titles are because 1) they utterly break the sorting facility and 2) they enlarge the table when there's really no need to do so. I still fail to see which extra information is gained in English Wikipedia by including the Cyrillic text next to every native toponym; again, that information is not included in lists related with countries which use only Cyrillic alphabet. Cyrillic text should be provided in the lead of every individual article, but I maintain that it just produces visual clutter in the lists and article texts.
Your hard work on Serbian geography topics is much appreciated, but would you please cite your sources? Every non-trivial statement on Wikipedia should be traceable back to a reliable source. I added a reference for several lakes, and fixed few errors in the process: the difference is that, without references, other editors and readers have to "hunt" the information over the internet or libraries, when you could have added it right out from the start. Duja► 08:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- Zdravo Dujo. Well, you know my position on the matter (not just on Cyrillic but on any non-English names). And if we judge people by their actions you definitely hate Cyrillic :o) Plus, you made some major changes after you removed Cyrillic making it painfully hard for me to put Cyrillic back. Clever :o))
- I didn't put any sources here because it is simply a list. I think that every individual page should have sources but adding so many sources in text (or lists, to every lake in this case) is what I find disruptive (visually, changing the spacing between the lines) and makes a total mess out of the editing box. My two major sources for all the basic data are two encyclopaedias (Mala Prosvetina i Geografski leksikon YU) and I usually put them in the reference section, plus some external links if I find some (though I don't look much; I prefer printed sources whenever possible). This kind of citing sources (per every item in text) I use only if someone specifically is asking (some do even though sources are listed in the references). I know how other people find this important (check the Višnjica article which was nominated for deletion) but I find it boring and not much important. It is just the result of a mainly unsuccessful fight against idiots which disrupt the Wikipedia. But this will take us to another discussion about weaknesses of Wikipedia or why, under current structure, it will never be a real encyclopaedia (encyclopaedias are written or at least controlled by the real authorities in certain fields and they don't cite sources, they are sources). As for this page, if you like, we can exchange e-mails or msn so I can send you where these lakes are references in books that I have so you can add it here. It's really boring and taking time. And if you like, we can collaborate on making this (and the mountains list) much less red-linked. Take care PajaBG 18:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- PS - My mistake, I didn't indicate that Rit is located near Čoka
- PPS - So what if someone has to hunt for infos on the net? Where is the fun if someone else do everything for you? How do we gather infos? Internet is not just for porn. It's not that they would have to go out and, God forbid, run or something...they might even find some additional infos on the subject. Punchline, hunting is good...
