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[edit] Explanation

First, this is list of journalists that were killed in Russia, not those who died from natural causes. If there are any people who do not fall into this category, they should be excluded from the list. Second, any foreign journalists killed in Russia certainly belong to this category. Third, I just created this article; so the list should be verified, corrected, extended, etc. There is nothing final here. Finally, if anything is disputed, please tell what exactly is disputed, and let's correct this. Biophys 19:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Well the definition of killed doesn't amounts to all cases of unnatural causes.Vlad fedorov 20:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Then I will make two lists: (1) journalists who were killed, and (2) who died under suspicious circumstances. Whoud that be O'K? Biophys 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
O'K, I am leaving only people who were killed. Please, do not move this page any more!Biophys 00:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of journalists who died under suspicious circumstances in Russia

  • Ivan Safronov, a reporter for the Kommersant fell to his death from a window in his Moscow apartment. He was investigating Russian weapons sales to Syria and Iran. He had been questioned multiple times by FSB.
  • Yuri Baranyuk, the Komsomol'skaya Pravda newspaper, - Chechnya;
  • Igor Gareev, the Krasnoyarsk State TV and Radio Company, Natalia Pivovarova, the 7 Kanal TV Company, and Konstantin Stepanov, the Segodnyashnyaya Gazeta newspaper, all from Krasnoyarsk city, died in a helicoper crash together with Aleksandr Lebed
  • Vyacheslav Savintsev, the Gala - press newspaper, Tomsk city;
  • Firat Valeev, the Vecherni Neftekamsk newspaper, Bashkortostan;

ilgiz 03:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violations and distortions by Vlad

For example, Vlad inserted the following segment: "The Sharia Jamaat also claimed responsibility for the murder of Magomedzagid Varisov. On June 28, Magomedzagid Varisov, a well-known political scientist and journalist, was shot to death as he pulled up to his home in Makhachkala."

But original source includes the following: "The Sharia Jamaat also claimed responsibility for the murder of Magomedzagid Varisov. On June 28, Magomedzagid Varisov, a well-known political scientist and journalist, was shot to death as he pulled up to his home in Makhachkala."

Most important, this source claims that Varisov, quite probably, was NOT killed by Sharia Jamaat if to read the entire text. Biophys 20:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I request attention of administrators, because two texts cited above are indentical. And this is typical case of false accusations of me by Biophys. This is uncivil disruptive behavior and personal attack.Vlad fedorov 05:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Right, it is exactly what I am talking about: these texts are identical. That is why this is copyright violation: you have copied this text from another web site, I am sure without any advance permission. Biophys 14:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
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What about your copying of Stanislav Lunev diff citations form his respective copyrighted book? What about posting of the whole copyrighted articles by you at the talk pages? For example publishing copyrighted article on Internet troll squadsdiff? I just published citations which are permittable by law. If I copy the whole or substantial part of the article, then I need to ask copyrights.Vlad fedorov 15:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Here is the full article of the source: http://www.jamestown.org/publications_details.php?volume_id=409&issue_id=3394&article_id=2369984

ASSASSINATIONS CONTINUE IN DAGESTAN


The Sharia Jamaat also claimed responsibility for the murder of Magomedzagid Varisov. On June 28, Magomedzagid Varisov, a well-known political scientist and journalist, was shot to death as he pulled up to his home in Makhachkala. His driver was wounded while his wife, who was also in the car, was not hurt. Varisov was director of the republic's Center for Strategic Initiatives and Political Technologies and previously worked as head of the information and analysis department of the Dagestani People's Assembly and in the republic's Ministry of Nationalities, External Relations and Information. He also published articles in the mass media that provided – at least in the view of Itar-Tass in a June 28 item – "unbiased assessments of recent developments in Dagestan." On June 29, Kavkazcenter posted a message from the Sharia Jamaat calling Varisov a FSB agent, and saying he was a "mouthpiece of Kremlin propaganda and the Dagestani puppets, one of the active ideologues of Russian infidel power and the fight against establishing Sharia in Dagestan," and stating that he had been "executed." The statement noted that after the Sharia Jamaat claimed responsibility for the murder of Dagestan's minister of nationalities, information and external affairs, Zagir Arukhov (see Chechnya Weekly, May 25), Varisov published an article that dismissed the claim as simply another statement of the kind routinely put out by "all kinds of virtual jamaats." "With the permission of Allah, we destroyed this vermin, finally letting him taste the reality of our words and death," the Sharia Jamaat statement read.

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Still, not all observers are convinced that the Islamist underground killed Varisov. Kavkazky Uzel noted on June 29 that several days before his death, Berliner Zeitung had quoted Varisov as saying that the Dagestani authorities were losing control of the situation in the republic. In addition, Rumina Elmurzaeva, a journalist with the Dagestani weekly newspaper Novoe delo, told gazeta.ru that the newspaper had published an analytical piece by Varisov in which he had described the June 4 security sweep targeting ethnic Dagestanis in the Chechen village of Borozdinovskaya (see Chechnya Weekly, June 30) as a large-scale "political provocation." The website quoted unnamed Novoe delo employees as saying that Varisov "believed that the events in Borozdinovskaya, and particularly their consequences, which heated up the situation in both regions, were equally advantageous to the authorities in both Chechnya and Dagestan. His position was clear. He bluntly wrote that a majority of politicians are currently not involved in resolving the conflict, but earning political points on the blood of the murdered." Ann Cooper, director of the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), wrote in the Moscow Times on July 7 that Elmurzaeva told the CPJ that Varisov "had received threats, was being followed and had unsuccessfully sought help from the local police."

On July 4, UNESCO Director-General Koïchiro Matsuura condemned the murder of Magomedzagid Varisov, saying that he "embodied freedom of expression" and calling on authorities to "investigate this crime and bring the perpetrators to justice." The Vienna-based International Press Institute also condemned the murder and expressed concern over the situation in Dagestan, Radio Liberty's Russian service reported on July 6.

Vlad fedorov 05:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I understand. We probably need a separate article about Magomedzagid Varisov and extend article about Shariat Jamaat. This article also needs a lot of work. Biophys 18:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I couldn't find any other dead journalists lists in Wikipedia

From time to time in the news I see journalists dying, but where can I find a full list of dead journalists (by not a natural cause). Having all the stats we may try to see, is the situation in Russia more specific than in the rest world.

Some stats are here: 2007 http://www.cpj.org/killed/killed07.html 2006 http://www.cpj.org/killed/killed06.html 2005 http://www.cpj.org/killed/killed05.html 2004 http://www.cpj.org/killed/killed04.html 2003 http://www.cpj.org/killed/killed03.html 2002 http://www.cpj.org/killed/killed02.html 2001 http://www.cpj.org/killed/killed01.html 2000 http://www.cpj.org/killed/killed00.html

Sure, it would make sense to create such lists for different countries, and especially Iraq.Biophys 21:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of references

Kasakhpol, you just deleted the following references:

   ===2001===

- More detail: [1] - - ===2000=== - More detail: [2] - - ===1999=== - More detail: [3]

  1. ^ Russian: Погибшие журналисты - 2001 Glasnost Defence Foundation
  2. ^ Russian: Погибшие журналисты - 2000 Glasnost Defence Foundation
  3. ^ Russian: Погибшие журналисты - 1999 Glasnost Defence Foundation

and others, as well as my last edit.

Please explain here why are you making such changes.Biophys 23:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC) I am going to write the lists, but unfortunately their website does not work for some reason. Biophys 01:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why Ivan Safronov listed as killed?

There is no proof he was killed , I'm changing killed to died DVoit 16:32, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vladimir Yatsina

He is listed in " Journalists who reported on the conflict in Chechnya"

"# Vladimir Yatsina, a correspondent for ITAR-TASS was kidnapped and killed by a group of Wahhabis in Chechnya on July 19, 1999. [22][23]"

And he is listed in Journalists killed in 2000

"Vladimir Yatsina, February 20, 2000. A correspondent for ITAR-TASS, he was kidnapped and later killed by a group of Wahhabis in Chechnya [20]"

Aleksandr Yefremov is also listed in both sections ???

heatsketch, 8:57 September 15, 2007

[edit] Journalists killed in Russia under Yeltsin

As far as I know their number per year was much higher then under Putin. Could somebody complete this list? The name of the article demands it. Voyevoda (talk) 23:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It is good to see that nationalist rhetoric has a home even on wikipedia. David Straub (talk) 00:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)