Talk:List of iCarly episodes

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[edit] Copyright infringements

Please don't restore the short summaries. I've checked a number of them and they all seemed to be virtually word-for-word copies of those at another website. Some of them may be "paraphrases" produced by altering the wording slightly. Again not acceptable. This is not allowed under copyright law. We can discuss what to do about this without infringing somebody's copyright in the meantime. Do not restore. --TS 18:33, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Remove the summary content where a too close source for the description is identified but assume good faith on the part of the original editors. Wholesale removal without identifying the actual infringement does not help improve the article. Most of the summaries evolve as editors view the episodes. A presumption of copyright violation goes well beyond our fiduciary duty to wikipedia to make a good faith attempt to look for and remove copyright violations. Also if all that is available is a short online description it is impossible to make an independent comment so at the very least a the fair use exemption to the copyright would be permitted until better information is available. --NrDg 18:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of episode summaries.

At what level do episode summaries become copyright violations? My position is that if someone uses their own words to describe what they saw and adds a short description to the article that is both allowed end encouraged. Direct copy and excessive plot detail are copyright violations. For future referenced episodes the info is from published guides with descriptions originating from the show producers. A paraphrase of one or more of these listings is one person's understand of all the available information and is OK for inclusion. --NrDg 18:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Look at the TV Guide summary for iLike Jake, here, and for iHate Sam's Boyfriend, here, and for iWanna Stay With Spencer, here, and iHatch Chicks, here. Some of these are word-for-word identical, others contain substantial copied elements. Most of these are not cases of somebody just writing abut an episode. They are cases of copying. --TS 18:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Then remove the ones you have specifically identified, but leave the rest and the table intact, don't remove the ShortSummary= parameter. Don't remove them all because you've identified some copyvios. I still believe that episode summaries of future episodes fall under the fair use exemption as that is the only info available. Minor word changes are still copyvio but a true paraphrase, in my understanding, is not. Judgment were the line is. If someone reads the content and recreates it in his own words that is allowed. I'm willing to be convinced otherwise - some reference to policy and guidebgfbgfgsgglines would help. On different level, these episode summaries are the outlet we give people from creating episode articles. We don't want to take a bigger hammer to them than necessary and I like to see them evolve. --NrDg 19:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I've removed all those that substantially copied or were identical copies of the TV Guide source. This omits those that may have evolved as derived works over several edits from an original copyright infringement (those should also be removed but it will take a while to investigate them). --TS 19:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Looks good. I think the derived works are OK as long as the original copyvio has been subsumed in the subsequent edits. The biggest problem with these ep lists is excessive detail in the summary. The original work is the episode itself and most of the follow on edits are based on viewing the episode, not copying from a secondary source. --NrDg 19:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List

It seems that it is like a puzzle to me. Like in many episodes it says, Will Carly do this?. it sounds pretty crappy to me.JMC.me (talk) 21:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Episodes on TV Guide

I read on TV Guide that another episode,iGot Detention,will air on 3/22/08.It's about when iCarly's 50th webcast is jeapordized when Sam gets detention on that same day.Carly and Freddie try to get in trouble so they can shoot in detention with Sam.Spencer creates a huge cup of coffe,but drops his phone into it.Since I am an anominous user,I can not edit since the page is semi-protected.Please post this info up. Signed 72.68.37.89 (talk) 17:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] iStakeout is not in Season 2

Miranda has said numerous times that a season 2 has been conformed but they haven't filmed yet. Season 1 will have about 40 episodes.

[edit] IStakeout Info

IStakeout information was wrong, I added the right info

The police use the loft as a stakeout to track movie bootleggers, and Spencer realizes one of the detectives is his childhood bully. Meanwhile, Freddie loses a bet with Sam and must get a tattoo.

www.therockinwebkinzband.webs.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.116.60.121 (talk) 22:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Drake Bell & Josh Peck Not In iCarly...Yet

Drake Bell did not play Jonah in that episode. In fact, he wasn't on any episode of the series yet. Josh Peck did not make an appearance as well. So, whoever changed it put it back the way it is supposed to be. If you don't believe me about it, watch those episodes again and you'll believe me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evolution590 (talk • contribs) 22:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Are separate articles for episodes really necessary?

Take a look at this: Category:ICarly episodes. There are a bunch of orphaned articles in here that in my opinion are completely unencyclopedic. Are these articles really necessary? And should they be nominated for deletion? 青い(Aoi) (talk) 08:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)