Talk:List of highest awards in Scouting

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[edit] Source material

This http://caballeroscout.siemprelisto.net/ is a great site for more info. Chris 04:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Venturing "Highest" Award

It is a common misperception that the Silver award is the highest award in Venturing. There is not a single highest award in Venturing. Currently, there are five "top-level" awards in the Venturing recognition program - Silver, Ranger, TRUST, Quest, and Quartermaster, depending on a Venturers interest and choice of program. --NThurston 14:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

To clarify - the Venturing program is specifically designed to not be strictly heirarchical. Individuals are encouraged to seek growth opportunities in any area of their choosing. For those who choose outdoors, the Ranger Award is the "top-level" award. Similarly, for those choosing religious life, sports, and sea scouting, the TRUST, Quest, and Quartermaster awards are the top-level awards. Currently, there is no "top-level" award designed specifically for those choosing Arts & Hobbies, but I wouldn't be surprised if that changes in the future. The Silver Award is another way that a Venturer can be recognized, but there is no superiority for completing the Silver over any of the other four "top-level" awards. --NThurston 15:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] images

I have to work early tomorrow, but if someone else will make room on the chart, I will upload highest rank images for Argentina, Austria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Brazil, Brunei, Costa Rica, Cyprus, Czech Rep, Denmark, Domincan Rep, Egypt, El Salvador, Estonia, Greece, Honduras, Hungary, India, Japan, Kenya, Kiribati, Korea, Liechtenstein, Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Pakistan, Panama, Russia, Singapore, Slovakia, Sri Lanka, Sweden, Taiwan, Tanzania, Ukraine, Zambia and Zimbabwe. Chris 08:22, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not really sure, if the badges you did upload are really the highest ranks of the respective association. Unfortunately you don't give any source for the badge and also any source for the rank. Image:-Austriahighestrank.jpg for example shows the Georgsabzeichen of the Pfadfinder und Pfadfinderinnen Österreichs: Until 2005 this was the highest rank in the Caravelles/Explorers section but the program was revised. The badge is still available, but AFAIK actually not connected to any special requirements. --jergen 20:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
What sort of source are you speaking of? They are from my collection, and I labeled them thus. Chris 00:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I know that these badges are part of your collection. Perhaps my question was badly formulated: The images need a good description mentioning at least the title of the rank and the association to make the use of the images easier. I'm sure you have these data. Could you please insert it on the images' pages? WP:UPIMAGE#Mini HowTo proposes Template:Information for this purpose. --jergen 08:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Boy Scout Cross for Valor

Has anyone heard or the Boy Scout Siver Cross for Gallantry? I can't find any information on it. My grandfather won one and I have the medal and citation but cannot find any further information. (South Africa in 1929 for rescuing a person from drowning at sea) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.124.247.200 (talk) 02:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

I have not, I am duplicating this to the South African Scout Association talk page to see if they can help. Chris 02:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

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The image is used to illustrate Eagle Scout (Boy Scouts of the Philippines), where no free image can be made, this is a direct image illustrating the badge itself, the topic of the article, being used for educational purposes, and does not reduce the ability of the copyright holder to sell the work.
further editorial The tagging of this image with {{Scoutlogo}} is accepted and standard practice of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting and should not have to be rejustified on each image. The images are being used to illustrate the proper topics. Chris 21:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] UK Rovers

I am pretty certain that the highest Rover Scout Award in the UK before Rovers were discontinued in the 1960s was the Baden Powell Award, not the Rambler's Badge. I have also edited the "Rambler (award)" section of Rambler. This needs a reference, but I was in Rovers and a Rover Leader when they existed. --Bduke 22:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I have just noticed that Rover Scout#Original Programme and Badges has it right. The Rambler's Badge was early on. The B-P Award was the highest award before the section was discontinued. --Bduke 22:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] White Stag Leadership Academy Inc.

What is this? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 22:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

A US thing - see this site and google for other hits. Should it be included? --Bduke 23:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I say it should not be included as
  • it doesn't fit with the other orgs
  • it has no article
  • it is not a Scouting membership organization, sounds like a course or school

Chris 00:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

looking at the website, it would be at best equivalent to a camp award. Removing it. Chris 00:32, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

The web page says it is a "Venture Post" (two out of two wrong words) sponsored by White Stag Leadership Academy Inc. At best, it is a local unit and does not belong here. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 00:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Now, there may actually be some notable to be written about this, somewhere else-see two on the disambig page for White Stag, as well as Béla H. Bánáthy. Chris 00:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scope

Right now all the awards are for youth except for the Bronze Wolf and a couple of awards in See also. I think we should limit this article to youth awards. So- can the Bronze Wolf be awarded to youth? --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:09, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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