Talk:List of cruise ships

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Titanic? there are no Ts? gren 05:41, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Titanic was an ocean liner, not a cruise ship; see list of ocean liners. Some qualify as both, but the Titanic predates cruise ships entirely. Stan 06:13, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Deletion?

Should this article be deleted? There is already the cruise ships category, which is more update to date, has correct links, and doesn't need to be updated every time a new cruise ship article is deleted. Splamo 21:57, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

The "lists vs categories" debate has been going on for years, probably has a page about it somewhere. A category can't even be considered a plausible replacement until the list is completely filled-in, since category can't show what's missing. Even then, lists can be supplemented with annotations - in this case, launch date, operator(s), and renamings would be useful annotations not possible with categories. Stan 04:10, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Okay. That's a lot of articles though...

Splamo 16:11, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with list

One major problem I've found with this list is that while each vessel has one article, the ship can have many names. Here, each name has its own wikilink, which can lead a casual observer to think there are more ships than in reality.

For example, Pacific Sky was known in the past as Sky Princess (MS Sky Princess-redirect), and Fairsky (SS Fairsky-redirect). This means that the ship has three entries in this list, becoming four if someone includes her post-sale name of Sky Wonder.

How do you suggest would be the best way to deal with this? -- saberwyn 12:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I think the new name of the ship should take precedence. The old name link should therefore be pulled from the list and be put in the status/comments section of the new ship name.

[edit] "Launch"

The launch date is when the hull hits the water, not when the ship is completed, delivered, or sets sail on its maiden voyage. The launch date is months or years before the latter date. Some external sites (i.e., cruisecritic.com) apparently don't know that, and routinely list expected delivery dates as "launch" dates. This encyclopedia should not make the same mistakes. Kablammo 02:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why is the QM II on this list?

It, along with the other Marys and Elizabeths, is a liner. What gives? JDG 03:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

  • It is a ocean liner, not a cruise ship. -- saberwyn 09:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I've edited the opening paragraph so it says: "Ocean liners are only included on this list if they also function as cruise ships. See List of ocean liners." Otherwise we'd have to go all the way through the list and decide how to categorise each one. Not a good plan. --194.81.189.20 (talk) 14:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Big Red Boat III?

Wasn't there a Big Red Boat III? I see a placemarker on Google Earth for it, saying it was scrapped at Alang. Anybody know anything about it? --Ragemanchoo (talk) 08:09, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

There was, the ex-Transvaal Castle, S.A. Vaal, Festivale, IslandBreeze. You can read the history here. -- Kjet (talk · contribs) 13:10, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Real-time mapping of cruise ships

Real-time mapping of cruise ship locations worldwide is available at the Sailwx ship location service. Wikipedia article is Sailwx.

Note that it is possible to add a link to any cruise ship article that will show the current location of any ship that participates in the Automatic Identification System (AIS) tracking service, as nearly all do. Examples of (non-cruise-ship) Wikipedia articles that do this are CCGS Hudson and the Deepwater Millennium floating drilling platform. Such links could, conceivably, be added into the table on the list of cruise ships to allow individual ship locations to be seen in real-time. N2e (talk) 15:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Ferries?

Why has someone added ferries to this list? They are not cruise ships there are few ferries that would warrant being here maybe Hurtigruten and Birka vessels? The original list only included cruise ships. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.48.212 (talk) 07:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Aha just seen that these have been added by that <intended insult> kjet. Why can't he comprehend the difference between a ferry and a cruiseship. Please advise why I shouldn't delete ROPAX ferries?, otherwise I will delete them in a few days. No doubt kjet will add them again.

I cannot also comprehend why ocean liners are exluded but ROPAX ferries are included, very bizarre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.48.212 (talk) 07:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)