Talk:List of crossings of the Susquehanna River

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Contents 1 Market Street 2 Crossings? 3 Capitalization? 4 Data Ordering 5 Harrisburg

[edit] Market Street

Someone had linked Market Street Bridge in Harrisburg, PA with the Market Strret Bridge in Chattanooga, TN. - rmgrotkierii 2006/02/18 10:30am EST

[edit] Crossings?

Where are the other Dams (Holtwood, SafeHarbor, etc.)? They may not be open to the public for crossing the river, but they certainly cross the river. And if we're going to list demolished crossings, there was a bridge between I-95 and Conowingo Dam, long ago. Where does the AT cross?--J Clear 00:19, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, I like maps, so I ran Google and Topozone up from Conowingo and added the Dams and AT. I notice the area around the Rockville Bridge seems to be a veritable bridge grave yard. There is one obvious set of abutments just upstream. About 300m above seems like some awfully straight sets of rapids. 700m downstream appears to be another straight set of rapids. Then again, looking at the local topology, all but the first could be natural. ... Found some answers in the Rockvill Bridge article. And another obvious ruin north of Marysville, mentioned in the article.--J Clear 01:33, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Apparently there is a low head dam near the Shamokin Dam power plant, below the Adam T. Bower Mem. Dam. I didn't add it yet. It doesn't show up on the topos. I only found it while looking for the Bower dam, which does show on the topos. It gets back to how do you define crossing. Is it something that would be noticed by a boater? Is it a way for a human to cross the river? Would that include fords?--J Clear 15:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm contemplating a Susquehanna Dams article to compliment this page, and remove the dams that don't allow people across from this list. The article would be useful to consolidate the impacts to shad and siltation of all the dams.--J Clear 17:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization?

Should the generic "Railroad Bridge" really be capitalized? I don't think it should be, unless there's a real name associated. I did the West Branch with caps only to be consistent. But I did put other types of generic crossings in lower case.--J Clear 00:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Data Ordering

The list starts out listing locations with the river right town first, then river left. I did the West Branch that way. Some of the New York entries seem to be listed the other way. For those who would have to look it up like I did, river right is the right side as you're facing downstream. So it sould be "Endicot and Vestal". Although, given that the list moves upstream, the NY order might make more sense. The simplest fix (Plan A) is to just change the NY entries. Plan B is to change all the others. Plan C, the toughest, but my favorite, is to reorder the list downstream (and fix the NY entries) so the list looks somewhat like a normal map orientation, at least on the lower river.

I vote for A in the short run and C in the long run (or when I find time to write some perl to do it).--J Clear 01:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I've always ordered towns in an west-east or south-north direction, as that seemed to be a consistent standard used on the lists. It made sense to me since most lists focus on highway crossings and mileage markers go from west-east and south-north. As for ordering the list from mouth or headwaters or vice versa, the Mississippi River is the only one I know of that is listed from headwaters to mouth. It seems that mouth to headwaters is more popular because it places the larger and more notable crossings at the top, which are more likely to have Wikipedia articles. Just my 2 cents. VerruckteDan 03:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

The current row ordering does have that advantage. I didn't even try to make any of the west branch crossings be links. Still, this is a very river centric list, and contains other than just highways, so I'm not sure how much highway conventions should hold sway. I'm more concerned that as the river swerves one way or another that you don't jump which side is listed first. The west branch practically loops, it starts out running west near Carrollton, then north, east, and finally south. There's at least one place where the town is in a loop, and I would have had to list the town first where the highway crossed into town and second where it crossed out, to meet the "mile marker order standard". Even a 90 degree bend in the river could do it. Does the Mississippi article have any discussion on this?--J Clear 20:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Harrisburg

This should be mined for historical bridges near Harrisburg, but I don't have the time right this second.--J Clear 23:24, 5 August 2006 (UTC)