Talk:List of college bowl games

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Contents 1 Sponsors 2 ECAC Bowls 3 Amos Alonzo Stagg Bowl 4 Fort Worth Bowl 5 Coach bowls? 6 Removing title sponsors

[edit] Sponsors

First columns may belong to sponsors when they are paying millions of dollars on tv, but I think here at wikipedia the first column should be the NAME oF THE BOWL since this is a list of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.212.9 (talk) 06:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ECAC Bowls

The ECAC sponsors 6 annual bowls for Division III teams. The results for the latest games are here: http://www.ecac.org/feature/feature.asp?id=3673&fragment=0&SearchType=AND&terms=football%20bowl%20champions . I haven't been able to find annual results. Does anyone have those, so a page can be built? The list under D-III is really incomplete without these 6 annual bowls. BigKennyK 21:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amos Alonzo Stagg Bowl

I believe the Amos Alonzo Stagg Bowl should be listed under this name for a couple of reasons. First of all, this is a primarily a list of bowl games. Therefore, a person reading this page would be more likely to be looking for the Stagge Bowl than the Division III Championship. Second, the Stagg Bowl is the proper name of the game. The D-III championship is the title given to the winner of the game, not the name of the game. This is evidenced by the logo for the 2005 game, which features the Stagg name prominently. I know this is a little on the anal side, but I'd like to change it back. Any objections? --djrobgordon 04:27, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fort Worth Bowl

The Fort Worth Bowl is listed as the alltel Wireless Bowl but that was never officially crowned the name of it. It was recently reported in the Fort Worth newspapers that that sponsorship had fallen through and the bowl is looking at other sponsors. One being suggested is it might be the Armed Forces Fort Worth Bowl. I think we should probably move it back to Fort Worth Bowl and delete the alltel Wireless Bowl page. Then shouldn't move it to a new one until there's an official sponsor.

It's been officially announced as of August 23rd that the Fort Worth Bowl has been renamed the Armed Forces Bowl and sponsored by Bell Helicopter. Information on the bowl can be found at http://www.armedforcesbowl.com/ so the article should probably be moved to Armed_Forces_Bowl I would think now. --138.237.162.175 22:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coach bowls?

Should there be any type of category for Coach-based bowls, listed along with the years of the rivalries? Mainly, the Bowden Bowl comes to mind, because it's the only time in college football that a son has ever beaten a father when both are playing as head coaches. If you don't know, it's the annual battle between FSU and Clemson, between FSU coach Bobby Bowden and son Tommy Bowden of Clemson. FSU holds the lead at 5-3. Its one of the most heated in-conference rivalries, but not considered a rivalry because of it's alternative name, the "Bowden Bowl".

If anyone can think of more to add, or can give some opinion, please, let it be known.Zchris87v 05:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removing title sponsors

What would folks think about listing the non-BCS bowls by their common names, without the title sponsor. This would be easier to read, easier to maintain, and would also be consistent with the names of the individual articles.

For example, "Toyota Gator Bowl" would just be "Gator Bowl". Those that don't have a name other than their sponsor, like the Papajohns.com Bowl, wouldn't be changed of course. --Toohool 05:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm very against this. First, the proper title does include the sponsor name. The reason we didn't do this for the article titles is that it could change too often. Secondly, someone may only hear or remember "Toyota Bowl" and search for that, hopefully the search engine puts that to this bowl. --MECU≈talk 15:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I am also aginst this. I hate the fact that they are named with their corporate sponser's names, but those are offical names. Moberho 19:18, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, how about listing the sponsors in a separate column, like for the BCS bowls? I disagree with the argument that we have to call them by their official names. The presenting TV networks are under contract to use the full name, but those contracts don't obligate Wikipedia or anyone else. Looking at Google News, most outlets are using the short names. For example, 930 hits for "Poinsettia Bowl", and only 60 for "San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl." 1147 hits for "Liberty Bowl", and only 35 for "Autozone Liberty Bowl". --Toohool 19:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)