Talk:List of collectible card games

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[edit] Games removed from the list

[edit] Pirates of the Spanish Main

What definition of Collectible Card Games makes you so sure that PSM isn't a CCG? Wouter Lievens 09:25, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The one that says "you play the game with cards". Punch-outs are not card games. -- Netoholic @ 15:42, 2005 Feb 3 (UTC)
Half of the game is about the cards. They contain the stats of the ships and the crew. There is also the aspect of secret cards because some crew and/or treasure can be hidden from other players. Also, the creators market it as a CCG. Wouter Lievens 18:11, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Look at their rules section. A lot of miniatures games (D&D comes to mind) have cards that display stats. They are not CCGs. In this case, the creators package it somewhat like a CCG, and market it to the CCG crowd, but it is still not a CCG. -- Netoholic @ 18:26, 2005 Feb 3 (UTC)
Is Ani-Mayhem! a CCG? In what ways does its board-game-style position-based gameplay, which deviates from standard CCGs just as much as Pirates, include it but exclude Pirates? (see also: Talk:Pirates of the Spanish Main) --Boco XLVII 21:42, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
CCG's often use a special layout on the playing surface. Until the Ani-Mayhem! guys start cutting apart their cards and building little ships, though, this has nothing to do with Pirates. -- Netoholic @ 22:26, 2005 Feb 3 (UTC)
So your issue is with dimensionality of cards? M:tG Unglued has cards that require they be torn into pieces. Does that make it not a CCG? (what I'm trying to get from you is a definition of CCG) --Boco XLVII 22:38, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
This conversation is honestly getting stupid. You want a definition, go read collectible card game - I wrote quite a bit of it. -- Netoholic @ 00:46, 2005 Feb 4 (UTC)
From that page I see that the only rule being violated is the lack of card drawing; all cards begin in play and can later be removed or re-added. About half of the cards in play are face-down, though, and those are randomly located - Explore is the equivalent of a Draw action. Every other rule of being a CCG is followed. I suggest you either improve the linked article (not to say it is poorly written, just to say that it is unclear on a definition of CCG, especially one in which this game is not included) or say something relevant. --Boco XLVII 04:52, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The reason this is not a CCG is because this is a miniatures game. The game is played with miniatures. They are stored on cards, but the cards themselves hove no game value other than reference. Therefore, the game is no played with cards; it is not a CCG.

[edit] Dragon Storm

This is a role-playing game that uses cards extensively, but is not a collectible card game. The players make a big deal about that. -- Netoholic @ 07:21, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Sounds a lot like a technicality or politics, but it is not a CCG as defined by the definition of a collectible card game, correct?

[edit] CC & SH Universe

  • CC & SH Universe (CC & SH Games)

No source information, I can find nothing about it. -- Netoholic @ 07:21, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Final Fantasy

As far as I can tell, these are card games, but non-collectible (sold as a set). -- Netoholic @ 07:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Final Fantasy VIII is packaged in boosters of 10 cards each. Cards are numbered for collectibility. Final Fantasy VIII is not sold as a set, but Final Fantasy IX is.

[edit] Super Nova

Players draw off a shared deck of cards. -- Netoholic @ 07:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

This does not invalidate this game as being a CCG under the definition of a collectible card game. Nowhere in the definition does it say players have different decks. The game is packaged as a CCG, and is collectible in the same manner. Therefore, this should be a CCG by the current definition.

[edit] Battle Cards

Mechanically not much like a CCG. Steve Jackson Games got a lot of ears talking about how this was out before Magic, but may be a bit of historical revisionism? Here is a gameplay description]. -- Netoholic @ 07:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cardmaster Conflict

  • Cardmaster Conflict [3]

Someone's personal programming project. -- Netoholic @ 20:17, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sandwich Shop

  • Sandwich Shop (CCG Workshop LLC)

Not a notable commercial release. -- Netoholic @ 20:17, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Top Trumps

Shared deck, no more a CCG than UNO. -- Netoholic @ 20:17, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Base Ball Card Game

  • Base Ball Card Game (The Allegheny Card Co.)

Need a source for the game rules, but likely a fantasy baseball variant. -- Netoholic @ 20:17, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Topps FantaSports

Need a source for the game rules, but likely a fantasy football variant. -- Netoholic @ 10:07, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mystick: Domination

  • Mystick: Domination (Anoch Game Systems) (possibly non-collectible)

Mystick is a Customizable game, but comes in two set decks that you can mix. No collectibility on this game at all. -- Century


[edit] Other computer / console games as CCGs

I'm not sure if they're close enough to put on the list, but the following games are based at least partially on mechanics that closely resemble CCGs:

69.85.162.195 21:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

It's a very difficult line to draw. In some cases one has to make a distinction based on whether the game actually revolves around cards, or just uses cards as a mechanic. For example, Baten Kaitos uses cards for item collection, for quests, and for combat. Yet, the cards are just a mechanic, they're not actually the sole activity in the game. Even so, there will undoubtedly be individuals with different opinions on the subject. -- Slordak 16:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What exactly is considered an "actively supported" CCG?

There are only three games listed there, but there are still far far more in production, actively supporting and actively played, unless of course there are some set guidelines detailing exactly what "actively" means, but I do not see these anywhere on the page -- so, what exactly is an "actively supported" CCG? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Josh7289 (talk • contribs) 00:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

That portion was removed from the page. While it is a good idea, it would have to be defined in order to be useful. -- Century
I think it would be useful, however, to note each game in the list that has been officially discontinued by the manufacturer. I'm not talking about making a separate section, but just a note or something by the name of each discontinued game. I think something like this leaves no room for ambiguity, and could be pretty useful. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Josh7289 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC).
There are many games that have not been officially discontinued, but are obviously not being supported. It's hard to differentiate there. Then again, there are CCGs like Buffy The Vampire Slayer that are supported by fans, but not the manufacturer. --Century 02:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Garbage Pale Kids

Is there a known page for the "Garbage Pale Kids" collection? If so, why is it not on the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.1.28.249 (talk) 21:14, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Are we talking about the old Garbage Pail Kids from the 1980s? If so, while collectible, they aren't used to actually play a game as defined in the primary article on the subject. This list is a list of collectible card games, not a list of collectible cards (e.g. baseball cards) or collectible products in general. --Slordak 16:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] bobobo trading card game

there was also a not well known bobobo trading card game.I'll have a source up soon.

[edit] Alphabetical Listing

I added an alphabetical listing. I know nothing about Trading Card Games. My seven year old boy is interested, and I am trying to learn. The essential purpose of Wikipedia is to imform the ignorant. Those of us ignorant about Treding Card Games need an alphabetical listing, as the only thing we are likely to know is the name of the game.

Is there something about these games that invalidates my thinking? Nwbeeson 14:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

No, but the distinction between physical card games (games where one owns the actual pieces of card stock), virtual games (games where one "owns" virtual representations of cards), and video games which merely simulate this activity is very important. I would propose 3 separate sortable tables, one for each of these. With both the release date and title included, one could then sort them as desired. --Slordak 14:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I think alphabetical listings would be more useful than the current sortings, and I also agree that the three separate groups should be maintained. Once it's complete, I'd have the older lists removed, as otherwise it's just duplication of information. -masa ♫ 15:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Collectible vs. Collectable

Please note that there are two accepted spellings of this word and different companies have used different spellings. Please leave them as they are. --Century 23:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)