Talk:List of city nicknames in Canada
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[edit] Titles/ nicknames must be referenced
Please ensure that any additions to the page are referenced. If they are not referenced then please remove them immediately. This will help prevent the spread of questionable entries here. Thanks, Hu Gadarn (talk) 19:56, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- That seems excessive. There are many cities with nicknames so common giving refs to them is pointless. TO, for example, is one of the most well known Canadian city nicknames and you deleted it. If you have not heard that before, you should not be the one deciding what's in this article or not as you are clearly not familiar enough with the topic. And if that's the case, you should be adding "citation needed" tags, not deleting things. This list is ridiculously underpopulated because of this citation policy being applied so rigorously. I understand the sentiment, but without some leeway this list will never improve. TastyCakes (talk) 16:48, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- Good day TasyCakes and thanks for contributing.
- The reason for requiring referenced titles is based on a series of previous similar articles; in many cases thezse articles ultimately collapsed on themselves (i.e. were entirely deleted) because they became filled with so many entries of questionable value (e.g. "Bill's Town"). Asking for references is a way to ensure that the entries are legit and not something used by a small group or clique. You raise the issue of TO as being common in Canada for Toronto. Presumably it'd be easy to find a reference for it then? I don't mean to be sarcastic but this page will degenerate quickly if references are not required.
- In addition, i've removed the explanatory text because it causes the article to become unecessarily large. If people are interested in an explanation (and many will not be) then they can access the reference.
- In good faith, I will not simply undo your recent revision (as you have done to mine). I look forward to your thoughts. Thanks, Hu Gadarn (talk) 21:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Well first you did undo a number of my recent revisions, and unlike when I removed stuff from the page you seemed unwilling to do even a cursory Google search or something similar to check on them. That would seem to be part of the whole good faith thing to me... Second when I undid your "recent revision" it was because you'd deleted a big chunk of content, not because you'd added something I didn't like. As far as removing uncited information, all right I will grant you all of the names should eventually have a citation. But it is pretty easy to spot the vandals in a list like this - for example, "vagina" is not a common nickname for Regina or the "Swirling Vortex" for Medicine Hat, the list is still small enough for common sense to guide these things. Many of these nicknames are listed in the pages for the cities in question without any reference. Why are people not being anal about referencing them there?
- As far as having a brief explanation of the name, what is the big deal? It makes the list more useful and interesting for the reader and since there are only a handful of names to begin with, it's hardly as if there's a lot of clutter. The references do not always explain the name, or not with complete context. If the list ends up getting unwieldy and super long, like the American nicknames article, then sure, but when there's so few cities?
- And finally, as for Toronto being known as T.O., it's in the Name of Toronto article and doesn't have a direct reference. I will add the reference it does have. TastyCakes (talk) 01:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Explanatory text
Is there a reason you're removing explanatory text? Also, although the swirling vortex one does seem a little unusual, the Rudyard Kipling one is what I would consider a well known nickname for Medicine Hat. Again, why are you deleting things without marking them for citation first? TastyCakes (talk) 20:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
