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Just waiting for the fight to begin. I just hope this does not get renamed "List of formerly Prussian cities occupied by the communists." ;-) Danny

This is going to be another waste of precious time of many Wikipedians.
we, the Polish Wikipedians, do want the history of these lands be HISTORICALLY correct.
What does Helga Jonat is just ridiculous. Imagine all the Wikipedians from different countries in central Europe fighting over "nationality" of city names and cities themselves etc.
Kpjas

[edit] Polish pronounciation

I just bought myself a decent microphone and recorded all the Polish names in Polish (so far all the bigger cities from the table are ready). I link them to the first word in the city articles for all wikipedians to enjoy. If anyone has any request for a spelling or any comments regarding my Polish accent - just let me know. Halibutt 09:36, Jun 13, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] What happened to cities beginning with the letter "n"?

Perhaps I am insane, but was in here looking for Nowy Sacz, and noticed that no cities or towns whose names begin with the letter "N" are included on this list...

They were deleted by vandalism and never fixed or noticed [1]. Until now. I added them back in. -- Curps 01:46, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Upper Silesian Metropolitan Union

My change to add the Upper Silesian Metropolitan Union was just reverted by user Balcar with the following justification:

"you will notice that Katowice, Gliwice etc. are already listed in the table. Now why would we want to double count them? Besides, the union is far from 100% official yet)"

However:

  1. the Union is official because it has been recently registered in Warsaw. See the info by Polish Press Agency (http://www.money.pl/archiwum/wiadomosci_agencyjne/pap/artykul/zarejestrowano;gornoslaski;zwiazek;metropolitalny,133,0,249733.html) or the article on Upper Silesian Metropolitan Union.
  2. Inclusion of a superorganization in such Table has many precedences in Wikipedia. For example look at the European Union in the article List of countries by population.

I would request the editors to recognize the fact that USMU is the largest urban center in Poland. I would also like to point out that due to historical background, this is a sensitive issue and the removal of the change was perhaps not very well thought out. Stan J. Klimas

Thanks for the link to the article. As it makes clear, the USMU is still a work in progress.
"The formation of a non-compulsory union between communes is a first step to formalised cooperation between the 14 cities belonging to the aglomeration, which, though they will not loose their self-government, could also function together under the name "Silesia", the working name given to the union.
"Powołanie dobrowolnego związku międzygminnego to pierwszy krok do sformalizowanej współpracy 14 miast aglomeracji, które, choć nie stracą samodzielności, mogłyby funkcjonować także pod wspólnym szyldem "Silesia", jak roboczo nazwano związek."
So, let us not jump the gun here. UMSU is not yet a formal city by any stretch of the imagination. As the page is a list of cities and towns, UMCSU does not belong here, yet. Just like the Tricity does not either, to give another example. Balcer 18:34, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
PS. Polish Wikipedia, presumably the best informed on the subject, does not list USMU in its corresponding article pl:Miasta w Polsce według liczby ludności. Balcer 18:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I respectfully suggest that Polish Wikipedia is not always the authority as it sometimes tends to be biased on ethnic issues. Did you consider why the EU population is listed in the example I gave and nobody deletes it there?
The month-old Press agency brief says that after the papers has been printed in an official gazette, Silesia (USMU) is able to commence its work without formal obstacles.
"W najbliższych dniach statut związku będzie ogłoszony w Dzienniku Urzędowym Województwa Śląskiego, po czym bez przeszkód formalnych GZM będzie mógł rozpocząć działalność" - powiedział we wtorek PAP Daniel Iwan z gabinetu wojewody śląskiego"
Therefore, USMU is now a legal entity (and a de-facto single urban entity). Stan J. Klimas 19:26, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
By the way, the the paper required for USMU/Silesia to become a legal entity was published in Dziennik Urzedowy Wojewodztwa Slaskiego, Nr 108, Katowice, 2007-06-28, http://www.katowice.uw.gov.pl/urzadkatowice.php?urzad/uw_dzienniki_2007 . Hopefully, this is a sufficient justification to re-introduce Silesia to the list. Stan J. Klimas 20:09, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't see how ethnic bias enters here at all. The fact that Polish Wikipedia does not list USMU is an important consideration.
Anyway, all USMU is at this point is an organisation allowing cities located in the same area to co-operate with each other. It is not yet a city by itself. It does not even have a definite name. Give it time.
If you want comparisons with other Wikipedia articles, look at Ruhr Area and List of cities in Germany with more than 100,000 inhabitants. Looking from Earth orbit, Ruhr (or even Rhine-Ruhr) would obviously be the largest city in Germany. Yet it is not so lited in our list of German cities. Balcer 21:28, 29 July 2007 (UTC)