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ATTENTION: This page is regularly vandalized by the same person from varying, anonymous IP addresses. This person continually adds knowingly-false (but believable-sounding) characters to this list. This has been going on for months. The vandal has been warned repeatedly and should be banned on sight. Please verify ALL anonymous contributions to this page. RADICALBENDER★ 06:21, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
By the way, I also wanted to mention that this is the most persistent vandal I've ever seen. A number of us have been reverting this page for about eight months now. RADICALBENDER★ 06:34, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Yeah, and if you look at his contributions, it's not only this page that he's been vandalizing. Kaizersoze 03:00, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Top

Just let you know, I've added some stuff about the Brazilian football team that were working in the reactor core ("The Last Temptation of Homer") Saxsux

Consolidate minor characters (7 to 2 with comments):

  • Minor characters go to the Characters from The Simpsons page
  • merge groups of characters together (see details below)
    • +: far fewer stubs
    • +: easier to read a few longer articles
    • +: less repetition of info
    • Martin
  • Every single character gets their own page:
    • +: no thought required
    • Jeronimo (as with Lord of the Rings), LDC (if there is, in fact, an article with real content--a one-line stub is not an article)

Having been temporarily stymied in my attempts to move sep11 tributes to the sep11.wiki, I'm considering doing merges on this material. My masterplan is:

This would be a good point to flame me to heck and back if you think this is a bad idea! :) Martin

I'm not sure if I like the idea or not... probably, but I won't commit. If you do do it, you should have Springfield Elementary School for the students (minus Bart and Lisa, of course) and faculty. Tuf-Kat
I did Nahasapeemapetilon family by way of example. I also moved the previous vote block here and added pros and cons Martin
I just did Flanders family, but Anonymous56789 appears to disagree with me. I hope he will come here so we can discuss this. :) Martin

(copied from top) It makes more sense to link to something like Ned Flanders than to Flanders family, and a page that links to Ned Flanders should be mostly about Ned Flanders, not his family. - Anonymous56789

I don't think it makes any sense to have seperate articles on each of the Flanders. Rod Flanders has been a stub for over six months now, so I doubt that it's suddenly going to become a fully fledged article. I think the Flanders are best understood as a family, rather than individually. For example, most of the things one can say about Rod, one can also say about Todd. Martin

Please consolidate as needed. --Uncle Ed

[edit] Comic Book Guy

Did I overlook him or is Comic Book Guy missing from this page? If so that's quite an oversight. Seems he should be with business figures. -R. fiend 06:10, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

He sadly wasn't on there. That's really bad. Everybody thought that everybody else had put him on, yet no one had... -- user:zanimum

And while I'm at it there's that guy who appears all over the place, I think the action figure is called "sarcastic man" or something. He appears as a taxi driver, joke shop owner, exterminator, pet store owner, etc. Oh yeah, and that reminds me, for the "pets" section, what about the gerbil (or whatever rodent it was) that Lisa does science project on? (The pet shop owner claimed he wrote mysteries under some pseudonym I can't remember, I guess that would be his name.) And since any animal seems to qualify as a pet, there's also "Blinky" the three eyed fish. -R. fiend 17:33, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Refactor (a.k.a. Sorta' Major Edit)

I've been watching this page kinda' wobble for a while. Though many good things have been added and some long-standing junk was pulled, it needs a good tweak. My big point of contention: Lots of details.

Much info is duplicated from supplimentary pages (SNPP, Moe's, individual families') but is, in my opinion, too verbose for this page's list-like nature. A good deal can be omitted due to the very good inter-Wiki linking here, and others can be shoved off to the "repeat characters" or the "one-time characters" pages. Some notes are not encyclopedic and should be modified (ie. 'in one episode'). What's more, there are bits both unsubstantiated (Ronald Reagan?, no. Maybe Will Rogers.) and incorrect (Cree, Homer's half mother?, Dr. Sandy Rudolph?).

Smaller problems include: What was originally the Simpson family pet list (see the Table of Contents indent) has become the list of animals town-wide. Even so, such a list shouldn't be second on the page. There's my long standing wish to either move the "deceased list" onto the "one-timers" page, or just chuck it in leiu of snpp.com doing much better than us (stealing theirs would be wrong I suppose). The "voiced by" notes can be moved to the main Simpsons page with the actors' notes. The "Robot Rumble" list is a one-off and pointless.

I may just attack this page and let reverts/rebuilds occur as consensus demands. Hope everybody's down.

Domhnall 06:18, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] missing characters

Would somebody please do me the favour to add Steward the working duck to the nuclear power plant characters?

  • No one has mentioned osama binrotten, sec of state colon kapow or uncle slam(jeez, its been MONTHS sicne i mentioned this.. and it just rerun so i got the final name)
  • Also missing are Krusty's one-time sidekick the "no" lady (Mrs. No Means No)(I forget her name); I don't know if you also want to include his two 'sidekicks' (a gas tank and a scorpion?) from when Sideshow Bob shut down television. RealGrouchy 17:41, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Then there's the hamster that Bart and Milhouse launched into space, who said goodbye to his 'wife' in a shoebox living room. RealGrouchy 17:41, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • That's 'Nipples', and I added him today.--Anchoress 22:31, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
      • Hmmmmm... Actually, he's listed under 'School Pets' as 'Nibbles' with the same info I wrote. Perhaps he has been authenticated as a school pet in another episode; in the rocket episode there's no mention of his origins. --Anchoress 22:36, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
        • His name is probably not "nipples"... Adam Bishop 01:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Should Roy, from The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show, be added in this list? And would he be classed as a non-canon Simpson family member or not? Whiptail Crow 21:48, 12 December 2006 (GMT)

I can't imagine why he wouldn't be canon, since it was a regular episode. I'll add him. Natalie 23:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Where can you add Guy Incognito, the guy who looks like Homer but with a monocle, top-hat and mustache? He was in 2F08, Fear Of Flying.

[edit] Marge

Isn't Bouvier Marge's maiden name, and not her middle name? If so, putting her name as "Marge Bouvier Simpson" is incorrect, and should be changed to "Marge Simpson (nee Bouvier)", with the acute accent on the first e of nee. - Chewyman 19:41 NZT

Better? To get that e, you can hold down alt and type "130". Also check out Wikipedia:How to edit a page#Character_formatting--Will2k 23:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

Who is Natasha, the person mentioned as Ned's stepwife? Is she in an upcoming episode?- B-101 17:22, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It's one of the many fake characters this persistent vandal keeps adding. Kaizersoze 17:35, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)


why is ned's vegas wife (ginger) added, but not homer's vegas wife (can't remember her name)?

Because, like, you, nobody can remember it APclark 11:32, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

But then again Homer's Vegas wife featured in another episode, sort of.Davie4264 16:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I think Homer's Vegas Wife's name is/was Amber.

Does anyone know where ralphs leprechaun when to? I have seen him in one show and that is all. I have looked for him on the net. I want a tattoo of the leprechaun, my birthday is on St. Patricks day, and I wanted a leprechaun and the one I want is off the simpsons. I can't find his photo. I would like to see him on some shows too. If you know of one email me-kinkygreenleprechaun@yahoo.ca-thanks, frances

[edit] Mr. Bumblebee Man

I made a minor change in Mr. Bumblebee Man. He is mexican, not spanish.


[edit] Maggie's Name

I recall seeing an episode where someone in authority asked Homer about Majorie Simpson, in which Homer was confused, and Marge told Homer it was Maggie. Can someone confirm/deny if this is the case? I do have a fairly faulty memory ;)

  • Unfortunately, I don't remember the episode name or number. However, I remember seeing that as well, but it was "Margaret" who was asked about, as "Maggie" is the common short form. "Marjorie" is Marge's full first name. Eric 03:47, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
    • That's the episode where Bart, Lisa and Maggie get fostered out to the Flanders'. Homer and Marge go before a judge (a nice older lady, not Roy or Constance) and Homer belies his avowal of good parenthood by 'correcting' the judge when she tells him his youngest daughter is 'Margaret' (don't remember exactly, but it's something like, Homer: 'Nothing could be more rewarding than being a good dad to Bart and Lisa.' Judge: 'And Margaret.' Homer: 'Who?' Marge (sotto voce): 'Maggie!'). --Anchoress 22:25, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
      • In one episode, Mother Simpson, Homer goes to the records office to correct the fact that He isn't dead,

At the Springfield Hall of Records Homer: (looking at his records) “Wife, Margorie. Children, Bartholomew, Lisa”—Aha! See? This thing is all screwed up! Who the heck is Margaret Simpson? Bureaucrat: Uh, your youngest daughter. Homer: (mockingly) Uh, Your youngest daughter!

Not sure but is that a different reference or are they the same one.Davie4264 16:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rumbleina is a pro wrestler on The Simpsons

Episode The Parent Rap. It's in the second act, when Bart is watching TV after Judge Harm sentences Marge and Homer to be in locks. He's watching a wrestling show:

Lisa: Do you think it's fair that you're always into trouble, yet Mom and Dad are being punished?
Bart: No, it's terrible. [loudly slurps his soda]
Lisa: Well, why don't you do something about it?
Bart: After wrestling.
Announcer: Ladies and Gentlemen, I don't believe what I am seeing. Dr. Bonebreak just married Rumbleina, and they're already whaling on each other! [on TV, a wrestling couple attack each other with folding chairs]
Lisa: When are you going to start taking responsibility for your actions?
Bart: If I felt like it.
Lisa: You're not even listening.
Bart: I know you are, but what am I?
Lisa: Ugh. [walks off]

(Crosspost)

[edit] Edits

  • Moved the quote 'To be fair, I've never actually killed anyone.' from Cecil's bio to Bob's. Bob spoke that line to Cecil. Then fixed the formatting I screwed up with the move. --Anchoress 22:17, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Added Sideshow Bob to the Mayoral list under Government, and moved Ray Patterson (whose entry seemed to split the 'related' list). --Anchoress 22:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Added Frank Ormand and John Frink Senior to the Business category. --Anchoress 23:40, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Added M. Kapperberg to teachers list. --Anchoress 23:56, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Orgin of Moe's name?

Currently it says "Moe – Matt Groening's former drug rehab counselor". Does anyone have a source for this? I suspect it's bullshit. Rubber cat 07:50, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spolier?

Why is there a spoiler warning? No plot is given away. --Thebends 23:47, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name origins organization

Does anybody else think that the name origins section is in need of some organization? I'm thinking that all the names that come from Oregon geography should be collated into their own sub-section of the name origins section. For one, it would reduce the number of repetitions of the word "Portland". Ideas? Matt Gies 18:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ozmodiar

Should Ozmodiar really be listed under pets? I mean, really, he's an alien, not a gerbil. I'm not sure where he should go, but if anyone has any ideas it might be nice.God and a half 19:51, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Springfield Retirement Home

Looking through this list, I noticed that there's no section for the Springfeild Retirement Home. If so then that means we've missed out on characters such as Jasper and the Crazy Old Man (someone seen with Grampa regulary). --DChiuch 05:42, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Jaspar and Grampa are listed down under Teachers from the time they substituted, I suppose, notthat there shouldn't be a Retirment Castle section. BabuBhatt 05:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

True, but we're missing out on characters such as: Crazy Old Man, Belle (Grampa's girlfriend) and others that I can't remember. --DChiuch 05:27, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Self-referrential links

Why are there some links for characters that redirect back to the top of this page (such as Clancy Bouvier)? There doesn't seem to be to be much of a point of that. I wouldn't recommend linking any characters unless they have their own page.

[edit] Moe's name origin

I'd just like to reiterate the question above. Does Moe's name really come from Matt Groening's former drugs counsellor? There's no mention of this in his own entry. Phileas 01:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colonel Happ-Happablapp?

I am fairly certain this character is not in the list but I thought I'd better check with others before adding him in case I'm wrong.

[edit] Smithers

I don't think there is doubt in anybody's mind that Smither IS gay. Could this "possibly", at the very least, be changed to a "probably"? Satchfan 08:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

The producers have confirmed he is gay, so anybody who says he isn't is wrong. TJ Spyke 00:58, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

This is a pretty old discussion with no objectors, and I've read that Smithers is absolutely positively gay (from either the producers or MG, don't remember which), so I changed it.--Anchoress 04:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject: Simpsons

OK... Anyone interested in helping cleanup the Simpsons information, join the WikiProject... if we can all work together, instead of different editors working on different pages, we can get all the Simpsons information on all of Wikipedia organized... - Adolphus79 10:11, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name origins move

It has been proposed that the Name Origins section of this page be moved to List of The Simpsons name origins, as part of a 'The Simpsons character lists overhaul'... (see WikiProject The Simpsons)

  • Support - Adolphus79 03:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Makes sense to me. Support - Usrnme h8er 11:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Support --Maitch 12:10, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support per everyone --Anchoress 12:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support per Anchoress --Rubber cat 22:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
    • closed... vote was move... moved... - Adolphus79 21:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bastardo

The character of Bastardo, a relative of Milhouse, sounds like a knock-off of Antonio Bandara's character from the Spy Kids trilogy. Digifiend 10:41, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brad Goodman

I can't find him in the list. I don't know who he really are, could be the reason why I don't found him. Under which category is he?

Sorry my english 83.250.1.18 18:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guests

It could be fun if there was a guest category Ex. The rolling stones, N'Sync etc.

Sorry my english 83.250.1.18 18:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

check out List of guest stars on The Simpsons... - Adolphus79 22:37, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clancy Bouvier

I believe Clancy's article should merge with the List of characters from The Simpsons article. His character is of too little importance to the series to be given an article that probably nobody is going to bother to read. Just my two cents. Same applies to Gladys Bouvier. Sillygostly 08:38, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, Dolores Montenegro needs to merged into here. --WillMak050389 15:57, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree on all 3 counts. King Bee 17:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mrs. Hibbert: Bernice/Sylvia?

I could have sworn that at least one episode of "The Simpsons" mentions Mrs. Hibbert's name to be Sylvia. Is this my imagination? Kidicarus222 05:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

According to snpp.com she has been called both Sylvia and Bernice. Adam Bishop 15:15, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joey Miyashima

Wikipedia has an article on Joey Miyashima, who was the voice of Toshiro, the apprentice chef in the Simpsons episode "One Fish, Two Fish, Blowfish, Blue Fish" (referenced at IMDb). If this falls within the scope of The Simpsons project, please add Toshiro to the appropriate lists and add the appropriate categories to Joey Miyashima. TheMadBaron 18:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rich Texan vs. Antoine O'Hara

  • this both are different persons, they have very different looks -- Simpsonspedia.net 08:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

I have 2/3 of a mind to propose it for AfD. The list is COMPLETELY OR and 97% or so of the material cannot be verified through any reliable sources. Thoughts, anyone? - CrazyRussian talk/email 03:07, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Well the reliable sources page is a guideline, not a policy. Here is a stable, respectable source for Simpsons information which I'm sure can provide citations for about 97% of the info in this article. Between that, IMDb and tv.com, pretty much everything in this article is sourcable on the 'net. Anchoress 03:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
SNPP and Simpsonspedia are not reliable sources. Sorry. RS is an elaboration on V, which is policy. Also read this from Jimbo. - CrazyRussian talk/email 03:54, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
RS says right on the page that it's a guideline, and that it's open to exceptions. I'm ont familiar with Simpsonpedia, but what's not reliable about SNPP? Anchoress 04:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Incorrect. Even if you hold the (frankly, nonsensical, as far as I'm concerned, but regardless) opinion that the episodes do not constitute reliable primary sources, then one can easily source the vast majority of this article from The Simpsons: A Complete Guide To Our Favorite Family (edited by Ray Richmond, ISBN 0-06-095252-0), The Simpsons Forever! (edited by Scott M. Gimple, ISBN 0-06-098763-4) and the rest in that series of episode guides.--SB | T 05:42, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

How is this original research? Adam Bishop 05:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Selma and Patty

In the article List of characters from The Simpsons under Clancy Bouvier it is stated;

"Smokes a cigar. Possibly where Patty & Selma get the addiction from?"

I believe this is wrong, in the season 2 episode Three Men and a Comic Book there is a flash back of Marge, Patty and Selma as kids. Marge is acting as a slave for Patty and Selma for money when one of the twins says something along the lines of "Now that we have more free time lets take up smoking" I think this is the reason why Patty and Selma smoke, not because their dad smoked cigars. (Josh della 06:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Trimming the list

I have proposed trimming down the character information (not the names) over at the Simpsons Wikiproject. Basically there is too much character information per person on this list and numerous people are listed repeatedly. I'm intending to start pruning soon, but will wait a day or so for any serious objections. Natalie 16:10, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with pruning all of the repeated names. Have each character listed once, and once only. Wavy G 02:10, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, that's good. It's actually already been done, although the occasional person tries to add a name again. Natalie 15:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NOTOC

I can't find people, so I'm taking the NOTOC out. Rich Farmbrough, 09:41 27 November 2006 (GMT).

[edit] "please source Ned's mother's name (on talk page) before re-adding it"

Scene transcript from The Simpsons Archive's episode capsule of Sweet Seymour Skinner's Baadasssss Song:

Marge: Ned, Homer and I are a little concerned with the way the school's being run.
Homer: [mouth full of peanut butter cups] Yes. Deeply concerned.
Ned: I may go a little easy on the old hickory-dickory stick, but that's just because my dad was hard on me when I was a boy.
[flashback to New York City; a young Ned spills some ink]
Young Ned: Whoopsie doodle.
Ned's Dad: Oh, man! Ned spelled ink all over my poems. He's a real flat tire, I mean a cube, man. He's putting us on the train to Squaresville, Mona!

Excellent. Thank you. Natalie 23:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Huh, what a weird coincidence; both Homer's and Ned's moms named Mona. Anchoress 01:49, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] assessment class

I think this article might be B-Class, or at least close. Agree, disagree? Natalie 00:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

There are still some problems, ie. It needs some sources (there's a good list at SNPP) and there are still some missing.
And, I don't think this article ever would have a chance at making FA, because there's no easy official source that we can use. I know SNPP is an acceptable source, but I've been hassled quite a bit over at the FA proposal for the Guest stars list because of sources. I'm currently preparing Season 2 to make a stab, and if it succeeds, we can work on the rest of the seasons. I'm sure some will call it un notable, but I'm going to try anyway. -- Scorpion0422 00:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't think it'll get FA, but lots of lists don't have sources. In fact, most of the lists I've seen of ficitonal characters don't have sources. Then again, I haven't looked at the all. Natalie 00:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Having looked again at some character lists, it seems about 1/2 and 1/2 as to whether they have sources. I'll start adding sources, but I'd like to avoid in-line citations, since I think it will uglify the list again, which I see was a complaint in the old FA. Natalie 00:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I think we should remove the characters that are only mentioned and not seen. They aren't a character if they are just mentioned. It would clean up the list and we would need less sources.
That's okay with me. Natalie 01:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bleeding Gums Murphy?

Hi all, new to Wikipedia here.

Was just wondering, wasn't Bleeding Gums Murphy implied to be Dr. Hibbert's brother? Should we add him to the Hibbert family (or at least a note to the possibility?) Shrumster 06:38, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

As the paragraph at the top of the page states, characters are listed only once. Homer, for example, is a member of the main family, but also a former student of Springfield Elementary, nuclear plant employee, Moe's patron, etc. Natalie 01:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT characters?

Do we really need this section? The only reason we have the deaths section is because this was information merged from "List of deaths on The Simpsons". As all of these characters are listed a second time (which they shouldn't be), I think this info is redundant. So if no one minds, I'm going to remove it. Natalie 22:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Okeley-dokely! --Rubber cat 06:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
The section was added again, and I have removed it again. Natalie 23:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anonymous Character

I'm new to Wikipedia, so please point out any mistakes I make here so I can fix them. There is one character who shows up on extremely rare occasions, and whom I do not believe has a name, but i think should be included just because he has appeared on multiple occasions. This character does not seem to be human, being heavyset and having a nose like a horn and two antennae-like appendages protruding from his head. He is present at the following points:

Episode 7, Season 18: Ice Cream of Margie: Marge is just finishing creating a model of him when Kent Brockman asks if she is interested in appearing on his show.

Episode 6, Season 11: Hello Gutter, Hello Fadder: He can be seen when homer is on a talk show having scored a perfect 300 bowling.

There is another instance when he appears after homer remarks that TV producers always change TV shows around in the beginning and shunt some characters into the background. The character walks past the window as homer is saying this. I don't know which episode it was.

I hope someone can identify whoever this is.

Milliganpierce 00:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Milliganpierce

That's the Capital City Goofball, a baseball mascot --Rubber cat 06:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inclusion criteria

I think that this is an awful list. It is way too long, poorly structured and includes way to many unimportant characters. I would like to propose that we define an inclusion criteria, so that certain unimportant characters doesn't crowd this list. We already have a list called List of one-time characters from The Simpsons, so I propose that this list only lists characters who have appeared in two or more episodes. --Maitch 14:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I disagree that the list is too long. Take a look at List of Shakespearean characters; that includes over 1200 people. Perhaps the organization could be re-done, but how would you propose to do that?Natalie 14:06, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, if this list should include every character (even one-time characters) on the show, then we don't have a rationale for having a list called List of one-time characters from The Simpsons. I would propose that the list gets converted to a table in which an image is included for every character. --Maitch 14:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
A table sounds fine. Natalie 15:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
I wasn't here for the creation of the one-time characters list, so I'm not sure what the rationale was. But my guess is that it was a place for those one-time characters who were voiced by someone famous, since they're sort of like guest stars and sort of like real characters. How to break up the character lists would probably be best handled at WikiProject Simpsons. Natalie 15:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I will take inclusion issue up at the Simpson Wikiprojekt. Below is my idea for a table for this list. I think we should find pictures that are headshots, so they don't take up as much vertical space. My idea is inspired by List of Prison Break characters, which looks very nice. --Maitch 17:40, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Picture Name Voice actor First appearence
Homer Simpson Dan Castellaneta Tracy Ullman Short "Good Night"
Homer Simpson is a safety inspector at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant and a generally well-meaning buffoon.
Marge Simpson Julie Kavner Tracy Ullman Short "Good Night"
Marge Simpson is for the most part a stereotypical American housewife and mother.
Not a bad idea, although it should all be on one line. We don't need big huge sections for first appearance. Either way, it will take a little work. -- Scorpion 17:41, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, the huge section was ment to hold a character description and I want the images to have a smaller height. --Maitch 17:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
In the Prisonbreak table, they have descriptions and they're on the same line for teh main characters. If we're aiming to have images for most characters, I can get episode images for the first 9 seasons (and some later episodes too) -- Scorpion 17:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
The first half of the Prison Break table has it on one line and the second on two lines. I prefer two, because I think it will look better on screens with a smaller resolution, but I can go with whatever the majority of people prefers. --Maitch 17:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, whichever you think looks best. I'm currently on a large resolution screen. But I agree that the height of the images should be smaller. -- Scorpion 18:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Picture Name Voice actor First appearence Description
Homer Simpson Dan Castellaneta Tracy Ullman Short "Good Night" Homer Simpson is a safety inspector at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant and a generally well-meaning buffoon.
Marge Simpson Julie Kavner Tracy Ullman Short "Good Night" Marge Simpson is for the most part a stereotypical American housewife and mother.

Here is an example of an one line version. The images should be smaller and the description should be a bit longer. Which do you prefer, Natalie? --Maitch 19:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

You know, I think I like the two line version better, provided we shorten the images. -- Scorpion 19:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible for you to find two screenshots of Homer and Marge, so that we can compare better? --Maitch 19:35, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
At the moment I'm at school, so I can't get screenshots, but take a look through the season pages and I'm sure you'll find some good images. -- Scorpion 19:41, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Update: There, best I could find quickly. I will also say that many of the screenshots (especially in the early seasons) should be replaced due to poor quality or having little to do with the episode and just being a silly capture. -- Scorpion 19:46, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
These will do for now. It's only a test. It would be good to hear what other people think about it. --Maitch 19:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Would there be an image for each character? There are a lot of characters, and loading all those images would inconvenience users with slower connections. --Rubber cat 22:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
In my original post I described my plan for only including characters who have been in at least two episodes. One-time characters already being listed in the List of one-time characters from The Simpsons. --Maitch 22:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


This is a great idea. But use the one line version and scrap the images (there are too many reasons for this to list). I also think a slightly different layout would work better, and also some different hues to make it easier to look at and locate a character. I have created an example of this below:

Character Voice actor Notes Credited from
Homer Simpson Dan Castellaneta Main character. Husband of Marge and father of Bart, Lisa and Maggie. Homer works as a safety inspector at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant. "Good Night" - present
Marge Simpson Julie Kavner Main character. Wife of Homer and mother of Bart, Lisa and Maggie. "Good Night" - present
Bart Simpson Nancy Cartwright Main character. Son of Homer and Marge and brother of Lisa and Maggie. "Good Night" - present
Lisa Simpson Yeardley Smith Main character. Daughter of Homer and Marge and sister of Bart and Maggie. "Good Night" - present
Maggie Simpson Various Main character. Daughter of Homer and Marge and sister of Bart and Lisa. "Good Night" - present

Please tell me what you think! I do believe this is a fantastic idea that would GREATLY improve this list of characters. Maybe even make it look a bit more encyclopedic? - .:Alex:. 16:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm iffy on a tabular format. While it is wonderful to have a nice table for main characters, when you start to make a table for the full list, (which, btw, as the Shakespeare example shows, should technically include every character ever seen or at least referred to by name, or with a line of dialogue if it is to be encyclopedic, and not arbirary (you want 2 appearances? move the list to "List of recurring characters on The Simpsons" which actually exists and is itself arbitrary, as it does NOT list all recurring characters, but just the handful someone has chosen to be "recurring enough to be "regular recurring characters""). An image for every character will be severely beyond the scope of limiting the number of fair use images - just like in the WP music project they have forbidden discographies with album/single cover thumbnails as not justified as fair use (I don't think you can find a free-use image for every character).
I think the table is better sorted than most "List of" articles on wikipedia which just toss everyone in alphabetically. TheHYPO (talk) 05:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm against the "Credited from". It's one thing to list the first appearance, but listing last appearances leaves tonnes of potential for edit warring. -- Scorpion0422 18:37, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree with just listing first appearance. Only a few characters have been officially retired - Maude, Phil Hartman's characters, Bleeding Gums Murphy and Lunchlady Doris are the only ones I can think of. Natalie (talk) 21:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Well here's an example of what it would look like here. Tell me what should be changed about it. .:Alex:. 21:17, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks good Alex....are they all going to be in the "new format" or just the ones that are in it, in your sandbox. I would assume they all will be, and that is just an example Ctjf83 talk 21:24, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, all the sections will be in table form. I just chose to do random sections in my sandbox that's all. .:Alex:. 18:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

This is a great idea, everything's perfect. We should get the renovations started soon, shouldn't we ? --Mr Alex (talk) 03:55, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Organization

After several rounds of discussion I have concluded that people prefer this list to be one giant list containing both recurring and one-time characters. This requires some better organization and I propose that we sort the list alphabetically by last name if possible. --Maitch 13:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm all for cleaning it up. We should start by removing all characters in less than 2 episodes. -- Scorpion 16:11, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, there seems to be a communication gap here. One-time characters or not? Other than that, I think alphabetical by last name is a great idea. Natalie 18:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
This may be quite a monumental task, but I think we should reference episodes for characters, also. It seems anyone could add a character to this list without it being detected. Any thoughts? --WillMak050389 18:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
The thing about sorting by last name is that many characters don't have last names. It wouldn't hurt to mention some of the more notable one-timers (Frank Grimes, etc), but then you open up the "if ____ is mentioned, so should _____". Let's leave it to characters who have made more than 2 appearances. Are we in agreement about the charts? -- Scorpion 18:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Update: I duplicated the page here and basically cut every character that was a one shot. After looking through it, it's kind of a shame to leave out notable one-timers (Grimes, Jacques, Mindy Simmons, Hank Scorpio, etc) but include others like Burns' goons, Corporal Punishment, etc because they appeared in 2 or more episodes. Perhaps we should throw in a couple one-timers. -- Scorpion 18:44, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Let's include the one-timers, but then we should limit the list to people with given names. We should sort by last name if possible, because families will be grouped together that way. If no last name is available it should be by the known name (e.g. Bumblebee man under B). --Maitch 23:24, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Also, we should limit the list to people that actually spoke in an episode. Currently, we have people on the list that we haven't even seen. --Maitch 23:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

WillMak, I'm not sure I entirely understand what you're asking. What do you want to reference specifically? Natalie 01:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I think we need a reqirement for each character on this list: add an episode for reference, just so it can be verified easily. A lot of characters have them, but we need it for each character listed, in my opinion. --WillMak050389 01:08, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Gotcha. That's what I thought, but I figured I'd double check. Sounds like a plan. Natalie 01:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
For the one-timers, let's limit it to the more important ones, otherwise, we'd just be duplicating the one-timers list. I'm going to get started on converting the list to tables, and you can find my saved work here. Others can feel free to help out where they wish. -- Scorpion 02:12, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking that maybe we should make a sortable table with a column for the first name and another for the last name. That way people can decide for themselves how they want it sorted. --Maitch 10:02, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I didn't even know you could make a sortable table. That's a great idea. Natalie 18:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

As we need to re-open this discussion:

We have Maitch's idea:

Last name First name Voiced by First appearance Description
Simpson Homer Dan Castellaneta "Good Night" father
Simpson Marge Julie Kavner "Good Night" mother

But there is the problem as to where to put the links to the character's page.

So we could have:

Name Voiced by First appearance Description
Homer Simpson Dan Castellaneta "Good Night" father
Marge Simpson Julie Kavner "Good Night" mother

Which cures that problem, but I don't know which to use, if either. Also should we include full names like Selma Bouvier Terwilliger Hutz McClure Stu Simpson, or should we ust use the one they are most commonly refered to Selma Bouvier? Gran2 09:43, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I think we should go by their most commonly name, but I don't know what to do with the characters that are usually known by something else rather than their real name. An example is The Sea Captain whose real name is McAllister.--Maitch 13:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
I think it varies, but its hard I mean Comic Book Guy is Comic Book Guy, everyone calls him that, but Jeff Albertson is his name, so its confusing as to what to put. Also having been building the list in my test area I think it is impractical to use the "First name"/"Last name" table, because there's no easy way to put in the links, and for characters like Groundskeeper Willie who haven't been given a surname/first name it just doesn't work. Gran2 13:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
We could perhaps do it like this: --Maitch 15:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Name Common name Voiced by First appearance Description
Simpson, Homer Dan Castellaneta "Good Night" father
Simpson, Marge Julie Kavner "Good Night" mother
Albertson, Jeff Comic Book Guy Hank Azaria "Three Men and a Comic Book" comic book store owner
McCallister, Horatio The Sea Captain Hank Azaria "New Kid on the Block" Sea Captain, Owner of the Frying Dutchman
Maybe we should also include the episode number, so that it would be easily sortable to find out who appeared first. We'd do it season, ep Number and the Ullman shorts would have a zero. ie.
Name Common name Voiced by First appearance Ep. # Description
Simpson, Homer Dan Castellaneta "Good Night" 001 father
Simpson, Marge Julie Kavner "Good Night" 001 mother
Albertson, Jeff Comic Book Guy Hank Azaria "Three Men and a Comic Book" 0321 comic book store owner
McCallister, Horatio The Sea Captain Hank Azaria "New Kid on the Block" 0408 Sea Captain, Owner of the Frying Dutchman

Thoughts? -- Scorpion 15:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I was just thinking that. I think that the list should be default sorted by order of appearence. That way the most important characters (such as the main family) are on top. --Maitch 15:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I like it, great idea. Gran2 15:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Maybe the two cells should be merged, ie.
Name Common name Voiced by First appearance Description
Simpson, Homer Dan Castellaneta 001 - "Good Night" father
Simpson, Marge Julie Kavner 001 - "Good Night" mother
Albertson, Jeff Comic Book Guy Hank Azaria 0321 - "Three Men and a Comic Book" comic book store owner
McCallister, Horatio The Sea Captain Hank Azaria 0408 - "New Kid on the Block" Sea Captain, Owner of the Frying Dutchman

-- Scorpion 15:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


I liked it the way it was before. It was filed by categories, such as the families, the elementary school, the nuclear power plant and Moe's tavern. The idea to be filed by appearances is great, but can we still have categories ? We can first of all file the families by appearances. About the other characters, before, they were filed by locations they mostly appeared, we can file the location by appearance, if possible. And with the table which Scorpion showed, the article would be perfect. Does anyone agree with me?

--Mr Alex (talk) 13:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

When does the renovation gets started ? --Mr Alex (talk) 02:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mrs. Burns

Burns adresses his mother as "Mater"(sp?) while talking to her on the phone. Could that be her name or is that something people often call their mothers?ufossuck 03:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

It's Latin for "mother". Adam Bishop 06:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. Marvin Monroe

Can't he be taken from the Death List since he has been shown to be living now? Tinkleheimer 20:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info. on Hugo

This article requires information on Hugo Simpson. For some information on Hugo, see Treehouse of Horror VII and Bart Simpson. Superjustinbros. 00:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Movie Characters

Should we add movie characters like Russ Cargill, Colin, And Plopper(Spiderpig)? It was stated that Colin and plopper would be retroactevly added to season 19.1 wit da force 13:13, 20 August 2007 (UTC)1 wit da force

[edit] Bleeding Gums Murphy (again)

Since the subject on BGM was a year ago, I have started this one: How is he a possible relative to Dr Hibbert? 58.168.108.11 04:35, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

In the episode "'Round Springfield" the relationship is hinted at:

Bleeding Gums: "I don't really have a family, all I had was a little brother who grew up to become a doctor. He used to laugh at the most inappropriate times."

Dr. Hibbert: "Hey I've got an older brother that I'll never see. He's a jazz musician or some such. Oh well, bye, bye." Ozzieboy 10:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Elizabeth "Lisa" Simpson?

I'm calling shanadigans on this. I have not been able to find any source that says that Elizabeth is Lisa's full name. Please correct me if I'm wrong. sohmc 12:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

You're correct, her full name is Lisa according to the Hall of Records scene in "Mother Simpson." --Rubber cat 06:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] C. Montgomery Burns

I cant remember the episode, or much about it, but it turned out the actual owner of the power plant was a canary named C. Montgomery Burns. I think this should be added under Power Plant. Grsz11 (talk) 02:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My suggestions for sorting this list

--A--

Akira Ms. Albright Amber and Ginger Bob Arnold State Comptroller Atkins

--B--

Mary Bailey Rex Banner Jasper Beardley June Bellamy Belle Benjamin, Doug, and Gary Mr. Black Blue Haired Lawyer Cowboy Bob Patty Bouvier Jacqueline Bouvier Kent Brockman Don Brodka

--C--

The Capital City Goofball Russ Cargill Carl Carlson Superintendent Gary Chalmers Charlie Scott Christian Wally Cogan Corporal Punishment Faith Crowley

--D--

Declan Desmond Duffman

--F--

Maude Flanders Nedward Flanders Dr. Foster

--G--

Mrs. Glick Gloria Brad Goodman Frank Grimes Barney Gumble Gil Gunderson

--H--

Constance Harm Herman Bernice Hibbert Dr. Julius Hibbert Elizabeth Hoover Hollis Hurlbut Lionel Hutz

--J--

Jacques Snake Jailbird John Rachel Jordan

--K--

Karl Edna Krabappel Hyman Krustofski Cookie Kwan

--L--

Lyle Lanley Dewey Largo Jack Larson Lenny Leonard Leopold Helen Lovejoy Timothy Lovejoy Stacy Lovell Coach Lugash Lurleen Lumpkin Lunchlady Doris

--M--

Otto Mann Jack Marley Troy McClure Roger Meyers Hans Moleman Molloy

--N--

Lindsey Naegle Apu Nahasapeemapetilon Manjula Nahasapeemapetilon

--O--

Frank Ormand

--P--

MacArthur Parker Patches and Poor Violet Ray Patterson Lois Pennycandy Ruth Powers J. Loren Pryor Arnie Pye

--R--

Sideshow Raheem Renee The Rich Texan Luigi Risotto Dr. Nick Riviera

--S--

Hank Scorpio Dave Shutton Mindy Simmons Grampa Abraham Simpson Llewellyn Sinclair Agnes Skinner Seymour Skinner Sgt. Seymour Skinner Waylon Smithers Roy Snyder Jebediah Springfield Brandine Spuckler Cletus Spuckler Lucius Sweet Moe Szyslak

--T--

Drederick Tatum Captain Tennille Johnny Tightlips Tina Ballerina

--V--

Melvin Van Horne Kirk Van Houten Luann Van Houten Dr. Velimirovic Veterinarian

--W--

Wiseguy Rainier Wolfcastle

--Y--

Yes-guy

--Z--

Artie Ziff Zutroy Dr. Zweig


I suggest sorting this article in the style as the list above. Notice that characters are alphabetized by their last name. I included titles such as "Dr." and "State Comptroller", but such titles are not considered in the alphabetizing. Characters that go by their first name, such as Akira and Belle, are listed alphabetically by that name. Characters with descriptions like the Blue Haired Lawyer and Veterinarian, are listed aplhabeticllly by that name. Finally, notice that even though characters are listed by their last name, their names are presented in order-first name, then last name. Only characters with the same last names, such as Kirk and Luann Van Houten, is the first name considered in alphabetizing.

My one problem is whether characters with titles, such as Lunchlady Doris, should be listed by his or her title, or by the name that follows that title, meaning, should Lunchlady Doris be listed under "L" or "D"?Tj terrorible1 (talk)

That is a good idea, infact I was going to do it 2 days ago, but got too lazy from all the sorting work it would involve...but if you wanna do it, have at it! Ctjf83Talk 19:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
What do you think of this? This is part of the list in alphabetical order. A-Dust (talk) 23:25, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

The list needs to be as presentable and easily-navigatable as possible. I think tables just make the list more unattractive (especially with the yellow) and cumbersome. If I'm someone looking at this article for the first time, I'd be turned off by the tables. I think we should just stick with the format used on the lower part of the page and ALPHABETIZE the characters. This way anyone looking for any character can find that character easily, like an index. Although we can still keep the families listed together.Tj terrorible1 (talk) 11:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nelson's father

"Mr. Muntz (Phil Hartman), father, "Brother From the Same Planet", former kids soccer coach"

this is wrong. It is established in a later episode that his father left him when he went to go to the store (I can't remember the episode). The man in that episode is thus assumed to be his mother's boyfriend.58.174.177.151 (talk) 08:53, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

So why does Nelson say "thanks Dad"? -- Scorpion0422 23:32, 26 April 2008 (UTC)