Talk:List of characters in Bully/Archive 6

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Contents 1 New edits 1.1 List of characters by appearanace 1.1.1 White Collar people 1.1.2 Middle class 1.1.3 Blue collar 1.1.4 Shopkeepers 1.1.5 Hobos 1.1.6 Asylum 1.2 Discussion of list 2 Info priority for characters 3 Parker and Justin fighting styles. 4 Students with non American surnames. 5 Character Information that needs cleaning up. 6 I deleted this last time and i'll explain why. 7 About unnamed characters on the list 8 A few things about Russell. 9 Things you notice during missions. 10 Christy Martin 11 Pedro ??? 12 Duncan 13 Missed-out unamed characters 14 Name Contradictions area. 15 Two jocks in cutscene.

New edits

Since we're working on the list of adult characters, I'd say we need to edit the indeterminable names section. Maybe I'll do that when I'm not at school. Anyway, I took out the part saying that the adult names were indeterminable, readded the characters that Paul1953 noted. I think the thing to do is write the list of characters and voice actors who haven't been identified at the bottom of the document as a list sort of thing, and then move them to the appropriate places as we figure out who they are (using reliable sources of course, hi Marasamuine). 75.148.25.169 (talk) 15:28, 17 December 2007 (UTC) McJeff (talk) not logged in.

I think some of the townsfolk need a few quote citations to be honest. So do some of the teachers and other staff.

I'll play the game later and go into the town and try and get a few quotes that the townsfolk say in dialouge to put them down as citations to back up some of their information.

I second that idea to put a list of characters and actors who haven't been indentified yet at the bottom. Dan the man1983 (talk) 16:05, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

List of characters by appearanace

This is to just get them all down. I know we have some names but I haven't tried to do any matching.

White Collar people

• Man in green suit with leather elbow pads-Mr Sullivan

• Black man in tan suit

• Bald black man in gray suit

• Man with gray hair and red hawaiian shirt-Mr Smith

• Gray haired man in black suit with tie clip

• Woman in blue fur coat

• Woman in somewhat low cut red top-Bethany Jones

Middle class

• Man with Mexican accent, wearing jeans and black shirt-Ramirez

• Man with white shirt and black pants-Huntingdon

• Man in ugly pin stripe yellow suit-Milhailovich

• Woman in green shirt-Ms Rushinski

• Man in red jacket and white sneaks

Blue collar

• Heavily built man in gray shirt and toque.

• Man in blue checkered shirt and hard hat.

• Man who wears an orange safety vest and hard hat.

Shopkeepers

• Asian man at the Yum Yum Market-Mr Oh.

• Man in the Aquaberry store

• Black girl at the Old Bullworth Vale barber

• Russian man in the Bullworth Town barber

• Punk girl at the New Coventry barber/clothing store

• Man who runs the tattoo parlor in Blue Skies Industrial

• Old black man who runs the sports clothes store in Bullworth Town

Hobos

• Old man with a beard who wears a Santa hat in the winter-Handy

• Old balding man with a pink jacket

• Black man in a heavy black jacket

• Old hunchbacked woman in a blue dress-Miss Abby

Asylum

• White orderly without a beard

• White orderly with a beard

• Black orderly

• The patient who calls the statue "The Watcher"

• • I think there's a 4th orderly, but aside from the sneaking mission, I can't get any of them besides the beardless white guy who's on drugs to appear.

D'oh,those orderlies appear only for that mission.Paul 1953 (talk) 15:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Discussion of list

Good list, I think its impossible to match the name of the females in that list though, since all of the mistmatched names in the credits are male names.

Here is the list of mismatched names for clarifications sake.

• Denny: Vincent Lombardi
• Hector: Jay Capozello
• Nate: Sean Morgan
• Stan: Jon Young
• Mr Gordon:Todd Sussman
• Mr Bubas:Tony Call
• Fenwick:Robert Whaley —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan the man1983 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Just a thought but could the Man with Mexican accent, wearing jeans and black shirt be Hector by any chance? , Now that is a wild guess on my behalf because Hector is a common name in Mexico Dan the man1983 (talk) 21:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

It's speculative still, so I guess we're not allowed to put it in. I'm pretty sure the oriental shopkeeper is Mr. Oh, but there's no dialogue backing it up.

Rereading the list, I realized I forgot some people. The well-to-do elderly in the retirement home in Bullworth Vale, the mailman, and the folk at the carnival (both freaks and carnival staff). There might be a couple others I missed too, if you or anyone else wants to double check. McJeff (talk) 01:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Dialouge is the only way of backing up these in my opinion, since they aint listed and stated who is who anywhere else.

Im pretty sure that i matched up the Mexican and his name Hector right though, just need in game dialouge to back it up Dan the man1983 (talk) 04:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Info priority for characters

I dragged this off the archives from a while back.

Stuff that should be included, in order of priority.

1) Brief physical description, as it's the easiest way to tell the characters apart on sight.

2) Storyline events that involve the character in the storyline of the game, e.g. Lola dating Gord on the side, Ernest running for class president, Chad and Algie running from the greasers on their bikes.

3) Less important stuff that occurs in the game - basically, errands and mission stuff. For example, Thad trying to de-vandalize all the posters of Mandy, or Norton giving orders to the Greasers when Johnny isn't around.

4) Overwhelming personality traits - that is, traits that define the characters. Damon's love of fighting, Tad's being inbred on one side and abused on the other, Thad's obsession with yardsticks, Hal being fat and liking to eat, Pinky being a princess, etc...

5) Less major personality traits. This is more for the characters that aren't important and don't get much screen time. Example being Parker's seeming to be nicer than the other preps, Donald holding grudges and being vengeful.

6) Only for characters who have literally no info besides appearance, like Bo or most of the non clique students. Things mentioned in the character's in game dialogue that you'd have to follow them around to hear. Like Bo being on good terms with his parents.

Now the way I see it is we need enough info to identify the characters, but not every little detail about their personality. If the characters have long entries, like Tad for example, then some stuff wouldn't be includable for them. But if they have short entries like most of the Townie kids, the random trivia stuff can be included. McJeff (talk) 15:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Parker and Justin fighting styles.

Seriously why is there back and forth edits on these?

First of all, let me state that toe to toe is not a way of describing a boxing style. There is names for the style where a Boxer stands in front of you and trades, Its an in fighter or a brawler.

The term toe to toe in boxing terms is what people describe when two fighters are standing toe to toe and slugging it out.

Second of all if an uppercut is thrown to the body then its a bodyshot, not a body blow. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 09:12, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

What i will do is play the game later and fight both Parker and Justin and then give you all my veiws on their various styles, then we can the discuss on how to put them back in the article. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 09:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok an update but i fought Parker and he throws left hooks to the body. I also fought Chad too, since he stepped in to help him and his style is a Philly Shell shoulder roll defensive style. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 10:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

You know more about fighting styles than me, so I can't contribute to exactly what the styles used by Justin, Bryce, Chad and Parker are.

What I've noticed about Bully is that there seem to be, for each clique, 3 fighting styles, plus the clique leader having unique moves. For the nerds, Thad, Bucky and Donald all use the flailing slap, Algie has a slightly unique style where he does a multiple-hitting slap instead of the falling push, and Melvin and Fatty do the shoulder barge belly bounce combo. For the jocks, Juri and Luis have the polish hammer combination, Bo and Casey use punches, and Damon, Kirby and Dan do the elbows and flying tackle. I haven't really studied the Greasers or Townies.

Anyway, the Preppies. Bif has longer combos with more hits in them and he dodges a lot more (Bryce has this style too, but only in the boxing club). Tad and Gord have the same style, they mostly finish with an overhead punch and once in a while throw an uppercut. Parker has a style where he throws a lot of shots to the body, he also has a straight punch that knocks Jimmy down even if he's blocking. I still have to test Justin, Chad, and Bryce when he's outside the club. Will finish this post in a bit. McJeff (talk) 22:42, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Bryce and Chad have the same style. They don't juke around much when they've got their hands up, they both lead strongly with one arm, both use the kick, and the heavy punch that goes through the guard. Only have to test Justin now, but I can't find him... stupid game. McJeff (talk) 22:57, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I ALWAYS hire those two particular preppies to escort me.WHen I get into a fight with people,I notice Justin throws a straight punch that knocks Jimmy down even if he's blocking,like Parker.Anyway,I'm gonna play the game soon,and confirm it.Paul 1953 (talk) 15:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Parker throws left hooks to the body and he does this 3 or 4 times. We can note that he has a bodypunching style, since he seems to throw more to the body then he does to the head. He also throws a short right hand up top to set up his own body punches.

Chad uses a Philly shell defensive style, now let me explain this more, a Philly Shell defense is where a fighter keeps his dominant hand near his chin and his jabbing hand hanging near his midsection.

Watch Chad carefully when he dodge punches, he twists his hip, dips down and rolls his shoulder away from them so the punch misses and glides safetly past his head. Thats how the Philly Shell defense works. He also jabs from this too, and as McJeff has mentioned before, he also kicks.

Algernon fights like he is desperate. Watch carefully and it can be seen that he dosen't know how to make a proper fist with his hand since his thumbs stick out, he throws rolling slaps and weak punches. Sheldon and Pedro know how to fight better then him and probably would beat him in 1 on 1 action (ive seen it). Dan the Man1983 (talk) 17:15, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of Brawlers, that is what the Bullies are, They are unskilled fighters but do fight and win mostly against Nerds and Non clique students. They use wide winging punches and will kick too.

Russell fights the same way but he has brute power in his punches and has great health, which is why he can beat up every other student and townie without trouble (wanna see a Boxer get his handed to him, then match Russell vs Bif. lol).

The Townies have the most damaging style, but they aint the toughest in the game, Id say Russell and Bif are the top 2 on toughness. The greasers use punches and a karate kick in theirs. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 17:42, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I think the greaser kick is just a regular old kick. If it's a karate kick, it's done with the worst form ever. McJeff (talk) 17:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Anyway I think the edit war is over, but you're the one with the boxing knowledge, so you can go ahead and describe Parker and Justin's styles in the article whenever you want. McJeff (talk) 17:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

They seem okay, but if i see any difference, i'll change them. Greasers seem to have a roundhouse kick from Karate, then again i know nothing about Karate, Maybe its kickboxing since they use educated punches and some of them use knee's too, but thats speculating. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 03:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the Greasers are just street fighting and happen to use kicks. Now there might be karate styles I'm unaware of, I'm no expert at karate, but I do know a little. The kicks the greasers throw are front kicks, and in the karate I learned (American Kenpo, under Joe Palanzo, who was trained by Ed Parker, just in case some random dude comes by and demands my credentials), front kicks are almost always thrown with the back leg. Most other karate kicks usually come from the front leg, but not the front kick. McJeff (talk) 03:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Good explanation and you learn something new everyday, Never had any interest in Karate, Im sure its a good self defense martial art, But i always believed Boxing was the best for discipline and it hardens a man up. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 12:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Now speaking of toughness, we all know that Russell and Bif are the top 2, since they batter the rest with ease, But why is Damon listed 3rd?

Personally judging from the 2 missions you fight him in, i had more trouble beating Derby then i did beating Damon.

I say we list Derby down as one of the toughest students in the school, I think Derby is the 2nd toughest clique leader after Russell, He is a little less tougher then Bif. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 21:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

All the preppies are deceptively tough because they're the only ones that dodge punches. But really all the clique leaders are either tough as hell or have nasty moves. Even Ted has a bunch of unique moves, although I can't get him to do much since Russell always ends up whaling on him. For that toughest kids list, the clique leaders aren't really taken into account at all since they're not found during free roam. McJeff (talk) 04:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Only Russell is found during free roam and we all know how tough he is. Judging from the missions you fight him in, Derby is tough, but not as tough as Bif.

Damon is tougher then Ted. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 05:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Earnest on the other hand is about as tough as a non clique student. You can fight Earnest after the mission where he makes you take pictures of Mandy, since he free roams after you give him the pictures. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 05:46, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Students with non American surnames.

I know we have enough information on the students already, but wouldn't it be more encylopedic if we stated that students with non American surnames have surnames from different heritage, So it gives readers an idea of what heritage the students are.

I added to Pedro that his heritage is Hispanic due to his name.

If so then here is a list of them.

• Pedro de la Hoya - Mexican surname.
• Algernon Papadopolous - His surname is Greek.
• Beatrice Trudeau - Surname sounds French to me.
• Gary Smith and Mr Smith - British.
• Donald Anderson - Surname is Swedish.
• Melvin O'Connor - Irish or Scottish surname.
• Constantinos Brakus - Greek i think, First name is anyways.
• Kirby Olsen - Danish surname
• Angie Ng - Korean or Chinese surname
• Luis Luna - Mexican surname

If anyone can add more then feel free. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 05:52, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Fwom where I come (Singwapore),Ng is a cwommon surwname.So she's Chwinese. ElmA! Fwudd ((talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul 1953 (talk • contribs) 06:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

...Paul, what the hell do you think you're doing? So far as I know you haven't ever contributed anything to the article that was good enough to keep. You nearly got banned because of your "blacklist". You claimed you were done with this article, then started contributing as "Anonymous" - only you got busted by the auto-sign bot. Now you're doing more tenditious edits, more revert wars, and now you're spamming up the talk page with this useless crap (and getting busted by the auto-sign bot again). Now would you please do like you said you would, and abandon this article? McJeff (talk) 06:48, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

That needed to be said, I seriously get fed up of reverting the same edits because he puts them back in again. I mean he put Tobias as the school bus driver again. Nearly every attribute to this article by Paul is always reverted. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 08:50, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

You two probably think that's clever,but it's stupid enough,even for both of you.Paul 1953 (talk) 04:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I'M not the one who can't write an edit good enough to keep in the article. Don't throw stones in a glass house there, Paul. McJeff (talk) 06:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

No it ain't clever reverting useless edits but it has to be done. You add them back into the article again with no sources or references as proof, If you did that then maybe your edits to this article would not be reverted all the time. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 09:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

.....How about the the quote I added for Widow Lisburn?Paul 1953 (talk) 14:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow 1 right, earlier i deleted one that you put in to Edward that was wrong on every level. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 11:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Character Information that needs cleaning up.

Ive just made this topic incase anyone feels that a certain characters information needs cleaning up, then they can list it here and then we can discuss on what to do with it.

The reason i did this was to save on edit wars, just incase one editor goes ahead and cleans up information on a certain character, and then another editor comes back and reverts that editors work.

I think it saves arguments and a lot of time in the long run.

Personally myself i feel that Melvin and Beatrice have a little too much information. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 23:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I just found the thing about priority and what info should be included in the article from one of the older discussion pages and brought it back out.

I agree on Beatrice, Melvin, and I'd like to add Algie to the list of students with too much info on them.

I think the writeup on Tad is one of the best of any character (it had to be, to keep all the arguments about Tad's inbreeding dead). Well sourced and clear, without rambling. Writeups should be no longer than his I think. McJeff (talk) 06:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Beatrice and Melvin have too much information and not one quote source backing any of the information up. So i think a few quote sources are in need for their write ups. Infact i know one of Melvin's quotes of by heart so i will add it in later.

I personally like Algernon's write up, Its give people the idea just how weak and tormented he is, and its backed up by sources of course.

I don't mind characters having a lot of information, aslong as a few sources back it up.

I think Wikipedia would prefer a long write up with sources, then a small write up with none at all.

A few write ups lack descriptions of the students too, so i might add them in later. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 23:35, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I seriously think Melvin's write up needs to be rewritten and cut down a little. Too much information on his like for Role Playing Games like Grotto's and Gremlins, Thats what i feel that needs to be cut. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 04:18, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead anddid a cleanup on Melvin, but feel free to go back and mess with it if you think I deleted the wrong stuff or left in things I shouldn't have. McJeff (talk) 05:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Both Melvin and Beatrice write ups look much better now. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 06:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

In your opinion McJeff, tell me what needs to be done with Algernon's write up since you listed it earlier as a write up that has a lot of information. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 06:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I think you were right and it's good enough as it is. There's so many citations in it that it looks huge when you're editing, but the actual entry is plenty good. McJeff (talk) 19:00, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Personally i think Algie's is one of the best on the article, well written, well sourced and backed up and no speculation. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 12:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Anyways ive added that his mother calls him Prince Algie in his write up since it shows what a momma's boy he is. Also added sources to his write up too. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 14:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I took out that Eunice is kind hearted, In my opinion i dont think she is kind hearted, i could not find one quote that she says to another student that is kind hearted or nice, and nearly everything she does say is sour or very uncomplimentary towards others.

The only person in the game she is kind to is Jimmy, thats only cause she has a crush on him.

Anyone else agree with me that "kind hearted" should not be edited into Eunice write up again? Dan the Man1983 (talk) 16:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I think we should say something like "She's simperingly nice to Jimmy after he kisses her, but is sour and unpleasant to other people most of the time". McJeff (talk) 20:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I think we should judge personality on how they seem to other students, since everyone is nice to Jimmy if they respect him.

Eunice does not seem to be nice to other people since she is sour and unpleasant to them. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 08:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I think it should be noted that the only girl that Ray is seen with during the game is Eunice and vice versa. All the other non clique students make out with each other, but Ray and Eunice never make out with the others, They don't even make out with each, they run around the school holding hands. 81.154.247.21 (talk) 05:49, 16 January 2008 (UTC) <---- User:Dan the Man1983

I deleted this last time and i'll explain why.

He's a fast runner, and twice Jimmy has to chase Davis down, once to take a slingshot from him and the other to retrieve Melvin's G&G character sheets.

I'll explain the reasons why, First of all it looks to me like gamplay mechanics and second of all, Bullies seems to run the same speed wether you chasing them or they are chasing you, However it should stay in since you do have to chase Davis during missions. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 12:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

About unnamed characters on the list

Back in the days when the characters weren't well known, a lot of the students didn't have names. The townies and all the prefects except for Edward were just listed with a description rather than a name and accredited voice actor. The reason I'm mentioning this is because I've seen a couple people go through the article and remove all character descriptions with no names to go with them.

After the names got revealed we stopped doing that, with the exception of the two mystery jocks in that one cutscene.

But, now that we're trying to throw a list of the non-student characters up, maybe it's time we start doing that... or at least debate whether having a complete list or a fully named and organized but incomplete list is better.

Note that the unnamed characters wouldn't necessarily be unsourced, they would just be identified via description rather than name. McJeff (talk) 21:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I say list them at the bottom of the article with their discriptions under a heading of unnamed characters.

Then when someone finds out their names they can edit them in the section where they belong. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 23:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

A few things about Russell.

I know its says in his write up that he can intimidate prefects and the police.

But should it not also be noted that he never get's busted for violating curfew and tresspassing in the school unlike the other students. Then again if you was a prefect, would you try and bust someone who is bigger then you? LOL.

Also he is the only Bully that bullies other clique members like Jocks, Greasers and Preppies. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 23:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Things you notice during missions.

List them here.

Maybe we can add them in the article if they are notable enough.

Troy chasing Pedro is a thing i always notice when Jimmy is on his way to Crabblesnitch's office during the start of the game. It always happens. Infact it might have to do with something about Russell wanting to hurt Pedro, Maybe he got Troy to chase him for him, but i aint put that in since thats only speculation. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 12:22, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Christy Martin

OK,so I sneaked into the Girls' Dorm and found out EVERY room on each floor has a bed with horror movie posters above it and on the opposite side is a bed with a painting above it.So,I hereby take the chance to apologize.Paul 1953 (talk) 14:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

This was resolved ages ago. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 15:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Pedro ???

Just a question thats been bugging me but.

How is Pedro the smallest boy in the school when he is the same height as Sheldon? Dan the Man1983 (talk) 20:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I think he's skinnier than Sheldon, and he's less mature, which makes him seem younger. Still that line could probably be taken out safely. McJeff (talk) 20:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I edited and changed it a little. Not sure i got his hair colour right though, I put it down as dark brown, but it could be black since he is latin.

I kept in the fact that he is one of the least mature kids in school and that he is a target for the Bullies. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 20:55, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Duncan

I again noted that there was trouble identifying his name. I also put up a citation-needed for the line of dialogue that was used to identify his name before someone figured out how to hire him (by not passing even Art 1). I haven't heard it myself, but apparently one of the townies says something about "That kid Duncan thinks Jimmy's his boyfriend or something". McJeff (talk) 20:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I have heard that quote, however i cannot for the life of me remember which townie said it. I think the note should stay there until a citation is added. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 20:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmmmm i have an idea though, maybe we could put quote citations in for quotes we here, however since we don't know who says them, we could put the name down as unknown until we know who says them. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 01:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Missed-out unamed characters

Whoever wrote the list of townsfolk left out some people.I've listed them out.

• White man in red jacket and brown trousers.Has blond hair and mustache.
• White man in beanie and black shirt.

I will try to get some more once I have time.Paul 1953 (talk) 13:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Name Contradictions area.

I wish people would read this before changing surnames of students.

In the past few days both Cornelius and Dan have had their surnames changed in edits. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 11:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

That last time is the only time I've ever seen anyone mess with the last names. There's some guy who shows up once every few months and claims that they're not brothers, but the citations seem to have put an end to that.

Cornelius' writeup is always getting changed, that's why I put the tag there.

And it's been proven over and over again that newbie editors don't bother reading that section.McJeff (talk) 22:42, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Dan's surname the other day was changed from Wilson to Carlson, People seem to forget that two brothers can have different surnames, maybe they only share one parent(thats what i think anyways).

It aint as funny as people trying to claim that Cornelius is related to Fatty and Karen since they share the same surnames.

You only have to look at Cournelius and tell the difference in why he aint a relation to them.

Do you remember when that topic was brought up in here? Dan the Man1983 (talk) 02:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Two jocks in cutscene.

I seriously think the black jock is Bo.

Ive studied a video on youtube on this cut scene.

He looks like him and even sounds like him.

Just my 2 cents anyways. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 02:17, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think he looks like him. Head is squarer, face is different (frown lines around the mouth most notably) and in general he just looks rougher than Bo. I think he's an early version of Damon (that scene was released in the first trailer), and that the other jock is probably an early version of Ted. A few of the characters, Jimmy included, went through a few appearance modifiers. (In the earlierst pictures of Jimmy, his ears stuck out more and his nose was more misshapen). Voice doesn't sound like his either. Bo has kind of a soft voice, the cutscene black jock has more of a chesty voice than Bo. My opinion. McJeff (talk) 03:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Thats because the early idea of this game was that Jimmy was gonna be an antagonistic Bully, Thats why there first version of him was uglier.

The black jock in my opinion, resembles Bo in looks more then he does Damon, so it might be an early version of Bo.

Plus the skin tone is different, Not to sound racist but Bo looks fully African-American where as Damon dosen't.

Then again during cutscenes i notice students look a little different then they do in free roam, Pinky to me during the cutscene to Movie Tickets mission looks like she has slanty eyes. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 04:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)